How Does Throwing a Partner Affect a Skater's Velocity in a Pairs Competition?

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The problem involves a pairs skating scenario where a male skater throws his partner forward, and the objective is to determine the male skater's velocity after the throw. The context includes concepts of momentum conservation and velocity calculations in a physics framework.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the conservation of momentum and how to apply it to find the final velocities of the skaters. There is uncertainty about how to utilize the initial combined momentum and the implications of the partner's thrown velocity.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem's conditions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the conservation of momentum, but there is still a lack of consensus on the assumptions regarding the velocities involved.

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Participants are navigating the implications of the problem's setup, particularly concerning the reference frame of the thrown partner's velocity and the total momentum of the system.

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Homework Statement


In a pairs skating competition, the male skater is initially carrying his partner. Together they have a mass of 130.0 kg and they are are moving forward with a velocity of 2.5 m/s. If the male skater throws his partner forward at 1.5m/s, find the velocity of the male skater after he throws his 45.0kg partner.

Homework Equations


Pa + Pb = P'a + P'b

v= p/m

The Attempt at a Solution


So assuming the equation to find velocity which is v=p/m all i have right now is the mass of the male skater which is 85kg. Now I am not to sure what to do with the original combined momentum ( both skaters together) which was p= (130kg)(2.50m/s)= 325kg.m/s... Now would what do i do with that do find the answer?
 
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Mrchilko said:
Now I am not to sure what to do with the original combined momentum ( both skaters together) which was p= (130kg)(2.50m/s)= 325kg.m/s
You know it is conserved, you can apply that to find a condition on the final velocities. The other condition is given in the problem statement.
 
Mrchilko said:
So assuming the equation to find velocity which is v=p/m all i have right now is the mass of the male skater which is 85kg. Now I am not to sure what to do with the original combined momentum ( both skaters together) which was p= (130kg)(2.50m/s)= 325kg.m/s... Now would what do i do with that do find the answer?

You have more than just the mass of the male skater. You have the total momentum, and you have the mass and velocity of the thrown skater (assuming the thrown velocity is with respect to the ice rink and not the male skater).
 
gneill said:
assuming the thrown velocity is with respect to the ice rink and not the male skater
Considering the numbers given, that would not be my assumption.
 

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