How Does Velocity Change with Position in a Force Field?

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The problem involves a 4.3 kg body moving in a force field where the force acting on it is defined by the equation Fx = -8x N. The initial velocity of the body at a specific position is given, and the questions focus on determining the velocity at another position and finding the position where the body reaches a specified velocity.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the application of the kinematic equation v^2 = v0^2 + 2ad, questioning its validity due to the non-constant nature of the force. Some suggest using the work-energy theorem instead, which involves integrating the force over the distance.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods to approach the problem. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of the work-energy theorem, and there is a recognition of the need to calculate work done by a non-constant force. However, there is no explicit consensus on the correct method or answers yet.

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Participants are grappling with the implications of using equations that assume constant acceleration in a scenario where the force varies with position. There is also a focus on understanding how to calculate work done in this context.

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Homework Statement


The only force acting on a 4.3 kg body as it moves along the positive x-axis has an x component Fx = -8x N, where x is in meters. The velocity of the body at x = 1.6 m is 11 m/s. (a) What is the velocity of the body at x = 4.5 m? (b) At what positive value of x will the body have a velocity of 2.7 m/s?

Homework Equations


F=ma , m=4.3kg, F(x)=-8x
=>v^2=v0^2+2ad

The Attempt at a Solution



a)
=>-8(1.6)/4.3= a = -2.977 m/s^2
=>v^2=v0^2+2ad
=> v^2=(11)^2+2(-2.977)(4.5-1.6)=86.467
=>v=9.299 m/s

b) Here is what I tried:

=>v^2=v0^2+2ad
=>(2.7)^2=(11)^2+2(-2.977)(Xf-1.6)
=>7.29=121-5.954Vf+9.5624
=>Xf=(-113.71+9.5624)/-5.954
=17.492 m

Need to know if this is correct only one submission left.

 
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mmattson07 said:

Homework Equations



F=ma , m=4.3kg, F(x)=-8x
=>v^2=v0^2+2ad

v^2=v0^2+2ad is only valid for uniform acceleration, that is, for constant force. That is not the case, the force changes with the position. You can use the work-energy theorem to get the velocity in terms of x, but the work is the integral of the force with respect to x

[tex]KE_2 -KE_1= \int_{x_1}^{x_2}{Fdx}[/tex]

ehild
 
So I just got lucky getting the correct answer for (a) using that equation?
 
Yes. You got a result that is close to the correct answer, v=9.38 m/s, but your answer to b. is far away from the correct one.

ehild
 
Could you show how you got v=9.38 m/s for (a)? I know it has to do with E=1/2mv^2 but not getting the right answer.
 
Do you know how to calculate the work done by a non-constant force?

ehild
 
It's the integral you posted earlier. I just don't know what to put for the integrand. I tried integrating -8x from 1.6 to 4.5 then setting that equal to 1/2mv^2 but no luck.
 
Remember, the work is equal to the change of kinetic energy.

ehild
 
Yes I remember. I know I can find the initial kinetic energy...but to find the final kinetic energy I need to know the total work done, then subtract the initial KE right?
 
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Why subtract? KE(final)-KE(initial)=work. ehild
 

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