How Does Zee Simplify Integrals in QFT Derivations?

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The discussion revolves around the simplification of integrals in quantum field theory (QFT) derivations as presented in Zee's "QFT in a Nutshell." Participants explore the transition from Dirac notation to a combination of Schrödinger and Dirac representations, focusing on the implications for wave functions and integrals involved in matrix elements.

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  • One participant questions the treatment of integrals in Zee's work, specifically why there are only two wave functions instead of four in the context of matrix elements.
  • Another participant rewrites the matrix element using completeness relations and provides a detailed breakdown of the transition from Dirac notation to wave function representations.
  • A participant expresses confusion regarding the evaluation of wave functions and their relation to state vectors, seeking clarification on the equivalence of dotting a state vector with a position eigenstate.
  • Further elaboration is provided on the connection between state vectors and their coordinate representations, drawing parallels to elementary vector algebra and completeness relations in infinite-dimensional spaces.
  • A later reply suggests that understanding these concepts is essential for engaging with QFT texts, indicating a potential gap in the foundational knowledge of some participants.

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The discussion features multiple competing views and remains unresolved regarding the treatment of integrals and the representation of wave functions in QFT. Participants express differing levels of understanding and clarity on the concepts discussed.

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Some participants highlight the need for a clear distinction between state vectors and their wave function representations, indicating that assumptions about familiarity with Bra-Ket notation and completeness relations may vary among participants.

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On page 12 of Zee's QFT in a nutshell, he rewrites an integral from dirac notation to a mixture of Schrödinger/dirac

My question is, since
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, what happened to the integrals, and shouldn't there be four wave functions instead of two?

I tried writing out the integrals explicitly, thinking maybe theyre integrated out with a delta function or something, but with no luck - I don't see how to get to psi(q_f).

Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Let me rewrite the matrix element as \langle \Psi_{F}| e^{- i H T} | \Psi_{I} \rangle . Now insert the completeness relations \int d X_{a} \ | X_{a} \rangle \langle X_{a} | = 1 , \ \ \mbox{for} \ \ a = I , F . You find \langle \Psi_{F}| e^{- i H T} | \Psi_{I} \rangle = \int d X_{F} d X_{I} \langle \Psi_{F}| X_{F} \rangle \langle X_{F}| e^{ - i H T} | X_{I} \rangle \langle X_{I} | \Psi_{I} \rangle . Okay, now use the definitions of the wavefunctions \Psi_{I} ( X_{I} ) = \langle X_{I} | \Psi_{I} \rangle , \ \ \Psi^{*}_{F}(X_{F}) = \langle \Psi_{F} | X_{F} \rangle .
 
I think I'm missing something extremely simple here... why is dotting ⟨X_I| into |psi_i⟩ the same as evaluating psi_I at X_I?
 
Cadaei said:
I think I'm missing something extremely simple here... why is dotting ⟨X_I| into |psi_i⟩ the same as evaluating psi_I at X_I?

And yes, you need to know the difference between state vector |\Psi \rangle and its coordinate representation, i.e. wave-function \Psi ( x). Almost all textbooks explain the Bra-Ket notations and their connection to “wave-functions”.
You seem to have no problem with \langle \Phi | \Psi \rangle = \int dx \ \Phi^{*} (x) \Psi (x) . \ \ \ \ (A) Okay, let us work on the left-hand side by inserting the completeness relation 1=\int dx |x\rangle \langle x|:
\langle \Phi | \Psi \rangle = \langle \Phi | ( \int dx |x \rangle \langle x | ) | \Psi \rangle = \int dx \ \langle \Phi | x \rangle \langle x | \Psi \rangle .
Now, if you compare the RHS of this equation with the RHS of Eq(A), what would you get?

Similar state of affair exists in elementary vector algebra. You know how to expand a vector |\vec{V}\rangle in terms of some orthogonal unit-vectors | e_{i}\rangle |\vec{V}\rangle = \sum_{i} V_{i} \ | e_{i} \rangle .\ \ \ \ (1) You also know the ortho-normality condition \langle e_{i} | e_{j} \rangle = \delta_{ij} . \ \ \ \ \ \ \ (2) You should also know how to calculate the components of the vector from V_{i} = \langle e_{i} | \vec{V}\rangle . \ \ \ \ \ \ \ (3) You can now substitute (3) in (1) to obtain another familiar equation in vector algebra | \vec{V} \rangle = \sum_{i} | e_{i}\rangle \langle e_{i} | \vec{V} \rangle . \ \ \ \ \ \ (4) This leads to the completeness relation for the unit vectors \sum_{i} | e_{i} \rangle \langle e_{i}\rangle = 1 . \ \ \ \ \ \ (5) And finally, you know the scalar product \langle \vec{V}| \vec{U} \rangle = \sum_{i} V^{t}_{i} U_{i} .\ \ \ \ \ (6) Now, imagine the vector space to be an infinite-dimensional complex vector space spanned by un-countable infinity of ortho-normal functions (vectors) |e(x)\rangle \equiv | x \rangle, i.e. just pass to the continuous limits i \to x , \ \ \ | e_{i}\rangle \to | x \rangle , \ \ \sum_{i} \to \int dx , and V_{i} \to V(x), \ \ \ V^{t}_{i} \to V^{*}(x) . So, we can translate Eq(1)-Eq(6) into the continuous language as follow \mbox{Eq(1)} \to \ \ \ | V \rangle = \int dx \ V(x) \ | x \rangle , \mbox{Eq(2)} \to \ \ \ \langle x | y \rangle = \delta (x - y) . \mbox{Eq(3)} \to \ \ \ V(x) = \langle x | V \rangle , which is what you were asking about \Psi (x) = \langle x | \Psi \rangle. \mbox{Eq(4)} \to \ \ \ | V \rangle = \int dx \ | x \rangle \langle x | V \rangle . \mbox{Eq(5)} \to \ \ \ \int dx \ | x \rangle \langle x | = 1 . And finally the equation you know \mbox{Eq(6)} \to \ \ \langle V | U \rangle = \int dx \ V^{*}(x) U(x) .
 
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samalkhaiat said:
Then why are you reading QFT text?

Thank you for your help, I understand now.
 
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