How Far Does a Bullet Travel When a Gun Recoils 2mm?

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The problem involves a 500g pistol on a frictionless table that discharges a 10g bullet. The question is how far the bullet travels when the gun recoils 2mm. The context includes concepts of momentum conservation and the relationship between the movements of the bullet and the gun.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conservation of momentum and the relationship between the movements of the bullet and the gun. There are attempts to apply formulas related to momentum and energy, with some questioning the validity of their approaches and the units used.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various interpretations of the problem, with participants providing insights into the relationship between the bullet's and gun's movements. Some guidance has been offered regarding the conservation of momentum and the center of mass, but no consensus has been reached on the approach.

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Participants note potential confusion regarding unit conversions and the implications of the gun's recoil on the bullet's travel distance. There is an acknowledgment of the need for clarity in the assumptions made about the system's behavior.

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Homework Statement


A 500g pistol lies at rest on an essentially frictionless table. It accidentally discharges and shoots a 10g bullet parallel to the table. How far has the bullet moved by the time the gun has recoiled 2.00mm?


Homework Equations


0=m1v1+m2v2
m1v1= (m1+m2)Vf


The Attempt at a Solution


well i tried the 0=m1v1+m2v2 formula and tried to substitute the value of v as s/t and then eliminating time, i rearranged it for the displacement value of the bullet and got a weird value of -.1 when the answer is 9.8cm
i know now that this is the wrong way to approach it when i consider the conservation of momentum but i have no other ideas on how to do this or how to start it!

if anyone does it would be most appreciated!
 
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There's nothing at all wrong with your approach, or even your answer, depending upon the units you are using. Realize that if the gun goes moves one way (+ say), then the bullet will move in the opposite direction (call it -).

0.1 m = 10 cm. If you subtract the 2 mm (0.2 cm) that the gun moved you'll get 9.8 cm. (But I see no reason why you would subtract the gun's movement from the bullet's, so I disagree with that answer.)
 
Well, the force pushing the bullet is pushing back on the gun.

So F=ma

then both bullet and gun are starting at rest, and force applied over distance (F*d) is energy, and the energy is kinetic.

Assume constant acceleration. The lighter mass accelerates faster.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/mot.html
 
ahh yeah converting back to cm might help :P

hmm that's very interesting (what you found), but i agree, it does seem to be just a random coincidence

yup, its all good now, thanks to both of you
 
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Also realize that the (perfectly valid) approach that you took is equivalent to noting that the center of mass of "bullet + gun" does not change. If the gun moves 2mm to the left, then the bullet must move 10 cm to the right to maintain the center of mass.
 
yeah i do now thanks
 

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