How Fast Does a Hawk's Shadow Move When Diving?

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The problem involves calculating the speed of a hawk's shadow on the ground as it dives at a specific angle and speed. The context is related to kinematics and trigonometry, particularly focusing on the relationship between the hawk's diving speed and the resulting horizontal speed of its shadow.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore different methods to relate the hawk's diving speed to the speed of its shadow, discussing the use of trigonometric functions and the geometry of the situation. Questions arise about the correct interpretation of the angles and the relationship between the vertical and horizontal components of motion.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the hawk's trajectory and the importance of drawing a diagram. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, and there is no explicit consensus yet.

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Participants note the challenge of aligning their calculations with the expected answers, indicating potential misunderstandings of the problem setup or the application of trigonometric principles.

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Homework Statement


When the Sun is directly overhead, a hawk
dives toward the ground at a speed of
6.04 m/s.
If the direction of his motion is at an angle
of 74.1 below the horizontal, calculate the
speed of his shadow along the ground.
Answer in units of m/s.


Homework Equations



My equation I used was

X(hypotenuse) = 6.04m/s / sin(74.1)

The Attempt at a Solution



My answer was 6.28 m/s, by trying to solve this problem via treating the answer as a hypotenuse between the known downward speed and the horizontal
 
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Hi garcia1, welcome to Physics Forums.

It seems that the hawk's speed is along the trajectory of his 74.1 degree incline. With the Sun directly overhead, its shadow should be following along directly below him on the ground. Perhaps you should draw a diagram of the situation (in profile) to see what's happening.
 
I took your advice and drew this diagram, realizing that the steep angle of the hawk's trajectory would make its downward speed the vertical and the speed of it's shadow along the ground as the horizontal. I came up with an answer of 1.72 m/s, using the following equation:

tan(74.1) = opp/adj = 6.04m/s / X

By solving for X, I got this answer of 1.72 m/s. This seems reasonable, since the horizontal is the smallest side of the right triangle I can make from these variables, but my answer still appears wrong on my homework. Any further thoughts?
 
The hawk's speed is along the trajectory, not vertical. If you draw the triangle, its speed is along the hypotenuse.
 

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