How fast is the area of the oil spill increasing when the radius is 30 m?

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The problem involves calculating the rate of change of the area of an oil spill, which spreads in a circular pattern as its radius increases over time. The specific question asks how fast the area is increasing when the radius is 30 m, given that the radius increases at a constant rate of 1 m/s.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the area of a circle and its radius, exploring the derivative of the area with respect to time. There are attempts to apply the chain rule and clarify the role of constants like pi in their calculations.

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Some participants have provided guidance on using the chain rule and correcting earlier misunderstandings about treating pi as a variable. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify the mathematical relationships involved, though no consensus on the final calculation has been reached.

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One participant mentions missing classes, which may affect their understanding of the material. There is an emphasis on keeping track of units in the calculations, particularly regarding the rate of change of the radius.

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Homework Statement


a) if A is the area of circle with radius r and the circle expands as time passes, find dV/dt in terms of dr/dt
b)Suppose oil spills from a ruptured ranker and spreads in a circular pattern. If the radius of the oil spill increases at a constant rate of 1 m/s, how fast is the area of the spill increasing when the radius is 30 m?


Homework Equations



A=(pi)r2

The Attempt at a Solution



dA/dt= ((pi)r2)'=(r2+2(pi)r)

dA/dt= ((pi)2(30) + 302)

is this correct? it seems like an awfully big number what have I done wrong?
 
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oh wait I am treating pi like a variable not a constant. durh
 
so dA/dt = 2*30*pi
 
You've got it dA/dt=pi*2*r*dr/dt.
 
OK so I would need to have multiplied 2*pi*r*1m/s but since its one it doesn't matter but that is what is happening correct?

I am multiplying the derivative of the expression by the derivative of r?
 
It matters if you are keeping track of units. That's where the m/s came from.
 
synergix said:
OK so I would need to have multiplied 2*pi*r*1m/s but since its one it doesn't matter but that is what is happening correct?

so i am multiplying the derivative of the expression by the derivative of r?

You are using the chain rule. d/dt(f(r))=d/dr(f(r))*dr/dt. You knew that, right?
 
Dick said:
You are using the chain rule. d/dt(f(r))=d/dr(f(r))*dr/dt. You knew that, right?

I know that now. I missed a good couple classes (long story short) because I had no other choice. Now I am trying to catchup. I guess I better do some reading..thanks
 

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