How Fast Must a Bullet Travel to Tip a Rotating Cube?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a physics homework problem involving a solid cube of wood constrained to rotate about a fixed axis and the impact of a bullet on it. Participants explore the concepts of moment of inertia (MOI), rotational motion, and the application of the parallel axis theorem in calculating the necessary parameters to determine the bullet's speed required to tip the cube.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about calculating the moment of inertia for a cube and references the known result for a sphere, questioning how to apply similar concepts to a cube.
  • Another participant suggests that the difficulty arises from the definition of moment of inertia being too specific and provides links to resources for calculating MOI for common shapes.
  • There is a discussion about the application of the parallel axis theorem, with questions about how to measure the distance D from the centroid to the axis of rotation.
  • Participants discuss the necessity of using the cube's dimensions and the appropriate formulas to derive the moment of inertia.
  • Clarification is provided that D must be the distance between the centroidal axis and the axis of rotation, emphasizing that the axes must be parallel for the theorem to apply.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need to calculate the moment of inertia and the application of the parallel axis theorem, but there remains uncertainty about the specifics of measuring distances and applying these concepts to the cube.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential misunderstandings about the definitions and applications of moment of inertia and the parallel axis theorem, as well as the specific geometry of the cube affecting calculations.

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Homework Statement


A solid cube of wood with side 2a and mass M is resting on a horizontal surface. The cube is constraint to rotate about a fixed axis AB. A bullet of mass m and speed v is shot at the face opposite ABCD at a height of 4a/3. The bullet becomes embedded in the cube. Find the minimum value of speed v required to tip the cube so that it falls on the face ABCD. Assuming m << M.


2. Homework Equations

I = MR2 (the integral one)
KE = 0.5 mv2
Force*height = Moment of Inertia*angular acceleration
(i am not sure)

The Attempt at a Solution


Actually, I have just learned moment of inertia and rotational motion. And teacher just give me this. I have difficulties in finding moment of inertia of a cube. I just can't get the result something like ms2/6 if the axis passes through center.

I am confused... I know that for a sphere we can make it into a very thin shell that dV = 4 πr2dr
But how can I do it when it comes to cube? The r seems different when it touches the side and the corner?

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You are having difficulty calculating the MOI of the block because the definition of MOI you are using is not quite general enough.

The MOI is calculated as defined in the following article:

http://www.efunda.com/math/solids/massmomentofinertia.cfm

This article contains a list of MOI for common shapes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_moments_of_inertia

Be aware that these MOI are the values about axes whose origin is at the centroid of the body. If the body is not being rotated about its centroid, then you must use the parallel axis theorem to find the MOI about the axis of rotation.
 
So for a cube, x, y and z must be used?
How can I apply parallel-axis theorem in this?
I know it states that

I = Icm + MD2
But in this case, how do I measure D? From where to the axis? Corner?
 
MickeyGoh said:
So for a cube, x, y and z must be used?

Yes, if you wish to derive the MOI for the block. However, you can also use the dimensions of the block
and the appropriate formula in the table attached to my previous post.

How can I apply parallel-axis theorem in this?
I know it states that

I = Icm + MD2
But in this case, how do I measure D? From where to the axis? Corner?

Presumably, you'll start with the MOI of the block about an axis running thru its centroid. D must be the distance between the centroidal axis and the axis of rotation. The axis through the centroid and the axis of rotation must be parallel to one another, in order to apply the parallel axis theorem, so there is only one distance which can be used.
 
thank you very much
I'll try my best
 

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