How has the weight of our planet changed over time?

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The discussion revolves around the question of how the weight or mass of the Earth has changed over time, particularly in relation to human activities and natural processes. Participants explore various factors that may influence this change, including environmental degradation, space exploration, and cosmic contributions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that human activities, such as deforestation and fossil fuel combustion, may impact the Earth's mass, although they note that these changes might be minimal.
  • Others argue that while space equipment sent into orbit does contribute to a loss of mass, the burning of fossil fuels merely alters the state of matter without reducing total mass.
  • A participant mentions that the Earth's mass increases due to the accumulation of space dust, but emphasizes that this increase is negligible.
  • There is a discussion about the distinction between weight and mass, with some asserting that mass remains relatively constant over time, while weight is dependent on gravitational forces.
  • Some participants speculate about the escape of gases like helium and hydrogen from the atmosphere, suggesting that this could also affect the Earth's mass.
  • One participant notes the significant amount of space dust that the Earth receives annually, which could contribute to its mass, but questions whether this is offset by other factors.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on how various factors influence the Earth's mass. There are competing views regarding the impact of human activities versus natural processes, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the definitions of weight and mass, and the implications of atmospheric escape on the overall mass of the Earth. There are also limitations in the understanding of how these factors interact over time.

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Dear all,

I am currently in a MSc program, in a different subject matter, and for some time I have had a ningeling thought, my question is...

As an example, say planet Earth weighed 100 tons, at its current state, what would the weight of been 100 years ago?

Some of my associates are of the view that the diminished rain forest, the burning of fossil fules, the quantity of space equipment that have been sent, and the increse of the human population, will all have relevence to this question.

I await any replies,

Thankfully,
Oain.
 
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The Earth's mass increases continuously due to space dust (meteors) constantly hitting it, but this is by tiny fractions of a percent per year.

Any human factors to decrease that weight are minimal.
 
The only thing that makes sense about influencing Earth weight that you mention is the space equipment sent to space.
Burning fossil fuels just change the state of that matter, but the mass stays on Earth (i.e as smoot), plants use the air and water and some soil to grow up, but the mass was already there.
 
Yah, everything except things being put into space don't contribute to a loss of mass. Diminished rain forests are turned into other things (the trees that is). Fossil fuels when burnt stay in the atmosphere and possibly come back down but they still are part of the Earth. It depends on where you consider the Earth to "end". If you consider everything from the center up to where the atmosphere starts, then fossil fuels converting to gasses and stuff being launched into space reduce the mass of the planet. However if you consider up to where the atmosphere ends, the gasses are still part of the planet.
 
Weight, in the word, is a relative thing, depending on the gravity exerted by a particular object (say the earth...). Mass, however, would be a more accurate description of a particular object's "weight," like "rest mass." (I cannot define that yet for you, but give me a few months :P) Mass of Earth does not change (at least in my eyes. I have limited education in this subject) even when fossil fuels are burned or trees are chopped down.

The mass of the planet might be increasing from space dust, as russ had said, but the result would have been negligible. The Earth is what is is (in the sense of mass), the Earth one hundred years ago would be roughly the same (probably to a few decimal places). However, if you were to go back a few million years, or even a few BILLION years, the mass MIGHT be different, to the point where gravity would be different and time MIGHT be different.

Like I said, I have little knowledge in this subject, but my speculation seems to be at least someone accurate...
 
The only stuff that leaves the atmosphere (non-deliberately) as far as I know, is helium gas. Which is produced by radioactive decay.
 
The same should be true for hydrogen, shouldn't it? On the other hand there's some ten times as much helium, so He probably dominates the atmospheric escape.
 
We probably receive 50000000 - 100000000kg worth of energy from the sun each year. I'm sure that adds up to something...

Unless an equal or greater amount gets blown off by the sun...
 
Lsos said:
We probably receive 50000000 - 100000000kg worth of energy from the sun each year. I'm sure that adds up to something...

Unless an equal or greater amount gets blown off by the sun...
If a near-equal amount wasn't re-radiated back into space, we'd be getting hotter: fast.

Note, the Earth receives about 18,000-25,000 tons (American) of space dust a year: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/moon-dust.html
 

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