How is Gold Formed and Distributed in Nature?

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The discussion centers on the formation and distribution of gold in nature, exploring its origins in stellar processes, geological formation, and the mechanisms that lead to its accumulation in veins on Earth. Participants raise questions about the processes involved in gold's creation, its relationship with other elements, and the impact of celestial events on its distribution.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that gold is primarily produced in supernova events rather than in the sun, suggesting that its presence on Earth may be due to these explosive processes.
  • One participant notes that fusion in stars stops at iron, and heavier elements like gold are formed through neutron capture during supernovae.
  • Another participant mentions that elements separate based on their differing densities, which may explain the formation of gold veins.
  • Questions are raised about why gold is often found alongside quartz and how it collects in veins during the molten rock stage.
  • Some participants discuss the role of meteors and volcanic activity in the distribution of gold within the Earth's crust, with differing views on their relative impacts.
  • Links to external resources are shared to provide additional context on ore genesis and mineral formation processes.

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Participants express differing views on the processes that lead to gold's formation and distribution, with no consensus reached on the relative importance of meteoric impacts versus volcanic activity. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of gold's accumulation and its relationship with other elements.

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Limitations include assumptions about the processes of element formation and distribution, as well as the dependence on definitions of terms like "nova" and "supernova." The discussion also reflects varying levels of understanding of geological and astrophysical concepts.

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Readers interested in geochemistry, astrophysics, mineralogy, and the processes of element formation and distribution may find this discussion relevant.

dragoneyes001
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I asked this in another thread and was told this question should have had its own thread so as to not hijack the other thread.
That question was: Has anyone calculated how much if any gold is produced in the sun? which is likely almost none do to the differences between fusion and fission and the creation of random/not so random elements in the processes of each. the answer I received from the other thread was that gold is more likely to be produced in a super nova...which makes sense yet in that case we'd have to expect gold to be in pretty small individual groups if not just fragments?

After thinking this over some I had a few other questions about gold such as how does the element attract to itself since on Earth we find gold in veins more often than not accompanied by quarts veins. if the element is a product of random chance (so to speak) what made it collect in batches during the molten rock stage before it becomes a vein? also why are gold and quarts found as somewhat partners during the forming of stone?
 
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Hi. This is just a quick comment rather than a real answer. Fusion stops when iron is produced. Heavier elements can't do it. Transmutation occurs under special conditions (nova or supernova) wherein neutrons are captured by the nuclei of iron and its descendants rather than causing a chain reaction explosion. That's drastically simplified from what really happens, but maybe will give you an idea.
 
dragoneyes001 said:
which makes sense yet in that case we'd have to expect gold to be in pretty small individual groups if not just fragments?
I don't quite follow the question here. Could you perhaps rephrase?

As for the second part, have a look here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ore_genesis
It's a fascinating read. In short, mineral concentrations can form in a number of processes, including precipitation from mineral-bearing deep water along faults (to form veins), crystallisation from magma as it cools (allowing different minerals to crystallise at different times), and even due to bacterial activity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delftia_acidovorans).

These pages might be of use as well:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold#Occurrence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vein_(geology)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lode
 
@Bandersnatch what i meant was in a nova you'd expect most of the effluent from the explosion to be on a near molecular size or dust sized with some larger groups obviously mixed in. stuff to create the clouds which we believe created planets and stars. using the precipitation. elements like gold would accumulate at depths their densities dictate among other elements positions (like oil floating on water...etc...). at the time of the Earth's crust being formed just how much would meteors striking the planet at that period have affected the distribution of elements within the crust? or was the volcanic activity the greater influence for the distribution?

PS. thanks for the links.

 
Ah, o.k.
To answer you question, I think it's supposed to be all from meteors from after the crust solidified. What sunk earlier, sunk to the core of the planet, so volcanism can't be sensibly expected to drege it up.
 
yeah makes sense thank you.
 
Principles of Geochemistry, Mason will give you an overview of cosmic, terrestrial, and crustal abundances and differentiation hypotheses.
 
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