How Is Proper Acceleration Expressed in General Relativity?

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The discussion centers on the expression for proper acceleration in the context of General Relativity, particularly in relation to geodesics derived from Einstein's Field Equations. Participants explore the differences between proper acceleration and coordinate acceleration, as well as the implications of these concepts in curved spacetime.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that proper acceleration in Special Relativity is expressed as a*ga^3, where ga is the Lorentz term and 'a' is coordinate acceleration.
  • Others argue that proper acceleration is defined as the acceleration experienced in an object's instantaneous rest frame, which is zero along any geodesic.
  • It is noted that the relationship between coordinate and proper acceleration can vary depending on the direction of acceleration relative to velocity, with specific formulas proposed for parallel and perpendicular cases.
  • One participant mentions that there is no unique answer for the relationship between coordinate and proper acceleration in general, as it can depend on the chosen coordinate system and the specific spacetime considered.
  • A formula for proper acceleration is suggested as a_0 = γ^3 a / γ_⊥, where γ_⊥ is defined based on the component of velocity perpendicular to the acceleration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the proper expression for acceleration and its relationship to geodesics, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a consensus.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of defining proper acceleration in curved spacetime, with limitations related to coordinate choices and the dependence on specific conditions of motion.

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I know that in Special Relativity, proper acceleration is understood as: a*ga^3, where ga is the lorentz term and 'a' is coordinate acceleration. Is there a corresponding expression for proper acceleration within the various geodesics that result from solutions to Einstein's Field Equations? If so, I would like to know what the expression is for proper acceleration in the Schwarzschild Geodesic. If not, could someone explain to me why not?
 
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novice_hack said:
I know that in Special Relativity, proper acceleration is understood as: a*ga^3, where ga is the lorentz term and 'a' is coordinate acceleration.
This is not really correct and it depends on the direction of acceleration. The proper acceleration is the acceleration of an object in its own instantaneous rest frame and is also the acceleration an object will feel subjected to.

novice_hack said:
Is there a corresponding expression for proper acceleration within the various geodesics that result from solutions to Einstein's Field Equations?
The proper acceleration along any geodesic is zero by definition.
 
Proper acceleration is the more fundamental quantity - it's what you yourself measure with your accelerometers when you accelerate. So probably better to say that coordinate acceleration is ##a=a_0/\gamma^3##. As Orodruin says, however, this is only true if the acceleration and velocity are parallel. It's ##a=a_0/\gamma^2## (Edit: not ##a=a_0/\gamma## as I originally wrote) if they are perpendicular, and somewhere between for other cases.

Pretty much the definition of a geodesic is that the proper acceleration of anything following it is zero. It's the generalisation of a straight line to curved spacetime. That's why you are weightless in free fall. If you do undergo proper acceleration you do not followa geodesic. Unfortunately there is no unique answer for the relationship between coordinate and proper acceleration in general because there is no standard choice for coordinates.

If you specify a coordinate system and a spacetime then the question can be answered. Be prepared for it to be position and coordinate velocity dependent. Also for it to be fairly arbitrary and meaningless.
 
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Ibix said:
Proper acceleration is the more fundamental quantity - it's what you yourself measure with your accelerometers when you accelerate. So probably better to say that coordinate acceleration is ##a=a_0/\gamma^3##. As Orodruin says, however, this is only true if the acceleration and velocity are parallel. It's ##a=a_0/\gamma## if they are perpendicular, and somewhere between for other cases.

Isn't the perpendicular case ##a_0 = \gamma^2 a##?

I believe the general formula for proper acceleration is: ##a_0 = \gamma^3 a / \gamma_\bot##, where ##\gamma_\bot = (1 - v^2_\bot / c^2)^{-1/2}##, and ##v_\bot## is the component of ##\vec v## that's perpendicular to ##\vec a##.

So if ##\vec v \, \bot \, \vec a##, then ##v_\bot = v## and ##\gamma_\bot = \gamma##. Thus, ##a_0 = \gamma^2 a##.

(Unless I'm wrong!)
 
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SiennaTheGr8 said:
Isn't the perpendicular case ##a_0 = \gamma^2 a##?
Yes. Thanks - corrected above.
 

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