How is the area of a circle calculated using calculus?

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the area of a circle using calculus, exploring various methods and interpretations, including integral calculus and geometric reasoning. Participants share different approaches and historical perspectives on the topic.

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  • One participant questions how to find the area of a circle using calculus.
  • Another participant provides a link to an external resource for further exploration of the topic.
  • A participant describes a geometric approach involving cutting and rearranging parts of the circle to approximate a rectangle, leading to the area formula.
  • Some participants note that there are multiple methods to derive the area, with calculus being one of them, and mention the application of limits in this context.
  • One participant suggests that non-Euclidean geometry could yield different results for the area of a circle.
  • A participant outlines a method using the equation of a circle and integration in the first quadrant, involving a trigonometric substitution.
  • Another participant proposes using polar coordinates as a straightforward method to calculate the area, leading to the familiar area formula.

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Participants present multiple competing views and methods for calculating the area of a circle using calculus, indicating that there is no consensus on a single approach.

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Some methods discussed rely on specific assumptions, such as the use of trigonometric substitution or polar coordinates, which may not be universally applicable without additional context.

Brajesh kedia
How can we find that using calculus
 
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Calculus is the end product. But you need to see how to get there.

Reaching WAAAAY back, I think to grade 9, or about age 14 for those not in the N. American system.

Consider a circle. Now cut it up into quarters. Flip alternate quarters so you get a wiggly back-and-forth thing that has half the outside of the circle on one side, half on the other, and a radius on each end. Now cut the middle third out of each quarter and flip it. You still have half the outer edge of the circle on each side, and still a radius on each end. Keep doing that. Flip the middle third of each segment. What you are getting closer and closer to is a rectangle with long side equal to half the outside circumference of a circle, and short side equal to the radius. Each time we flip the middle we get closer and closer to this rectangle. And this wiggly shape always has the same area as a circle.

The outside circumference is ##2 \pi r##. That's the definition of ##\pi##. Now we have a rectangle that has one side ##r## and the other side half of the circumference or ##\pi r##. So it's area is ##\pi r^2##.
 
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Much simpler than calculus... see how the greeks knew about it! Modern day interpretation of course...!
 
There are lots of ways to get the results, and calculus is one of them. The calculation above is an application of limit.
 
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You could also work in non Euclidean geometry and get other results.
 
Since you ask specifically about Calculus, the equation of a circle of radius R, with center at the origin of the coordinate system, is x^2+ y^2= R^2. We can simplify by looking only at the first quadrant where y= \sqrt{R^2- x^2}, x running from 0 to R. That will be 1/4 of the full circle so find that area and multiply by 4.

The area of that quarter circle is given by \int_0^R y dx= \int_0^R (R^2- x^2)^{1/2} dx. To do that integration, use the trig substitution x= sin(\theta).
 
Probably the simplest calculation with calculus is to use polar coordinates:

A=\int_0^{2\pi}\int_0^R rdrd\theta=\int_0^{2\pi}\frac{1}{2}R^2d\theta=\pi R^2.
 

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