How is the NV(-) Separation of ~1.7 Angstroms Determined?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the determination of the NV(-) separation of approximately 1.7 Angstroms, exploring the underlying principles and assumptions related to this measurement. Participants examine the relationship between nitrogen, vacancies, and bond distances in the context of crystal structures, particularly in diamond.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how the NV(-) separation of ~1.7 Angstroms was determined, suggesting there may not be a direct equation but possibly a relationship involving bond distances.
  • Another participant clarifies that NV(-) refers to nitrogen and vacancies, proposing that the expected distance might initially align with the bond distance in diamond (1.54 Angstroms), but notes that the lack of a strong bond could result in a larger separation.
  • A different participant suggests that the bond length of a C-N could be relevant, given that the vacancy represents a missing carbon atom, and expresses confidence in the accuracy of the 1.54 Angstroms under specific conditions (300K, no strain or pressure).
  • One participant points out that the substitution of carbon with nitrogen and a vacancy disrupts symmetry, indicating that the distance between nitrogen and vacancy does not need to conform to the C-C bond distance, suggesting that a change from 1.54 to 1.7 Angstroms is not significant.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relevance of bond distances and the implications of symmetry breaking on the NV(-) separation. There is no consensus on the exact determination of the 1.7 Angstroms separation or the factors influencing it.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss assumptions regarding bond distances and the effects of structural changes, but these assumptions remain unresolved and depend on specific conditions and definitions.

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reading a Nature paper tonight, I read that the NV(-) separation is ~ 1.7Angstroms. There was no equation to show how they arrived at this. Any insight into how this was determined? I don't think there is a direct equation, but perhaps using a to r?
 
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Ah, this is about nitrogen and vacancies. In lowest order, I would expect their distance to be equal to the bond distance in diamont 1,54 A. But there is no strong bond between the nitrogen and the vacancy, so the distance becomes larger.
 
Hi DrDu, I figured it was just the bond length of a C-N, since the vacancy is just a missing Carbon in the lattice. Which is what it looks like you have. I am looking at a crystal with no strian or pressure at 300K, so I think the 1,54A should be accurate unless you see otherwide.
Thanks!
 
The substitution of one C by N and one C by a vacancy breaks the symmetry. So there is no need for the distance between N and V to remain at the C-C bond distance. A change from 1.54 to 1.7 is not that much.
 

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