How Is the Speed of a Man Calculated When Running Across a Boat Moving Upstream?

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The problem involves calculating the speed of a man running across a boat that is moving upstream, with specific velocities given for the boat and the river. The context includes understanding relative motion and vector components in a fluid dynamics scenario.

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  • Participants discuss the correct interpretation of the man's running direction relative to the boat's movement and question the ambiguity in the problem's wording. There is an exploration of vector treatment for the velocities involved.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning assumptions about directionality and the interpretation of the problem statement. Some guidance has been offered regarding the treatment of velocities as vectors, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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There is a noted ambiguity in the wording of the problem regarding the direction of the man's run compared to the boat's movement, which has led to different interpretations among participants.

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A boat is traveling upstream at 14 km/h with respect to a river that is flowing at 6 km/h (with respect to the ground). A man runs directly across the boat, from one side to the other, at 6 km/h (with respect to the boat). The speed of the man to the ground is ____?

Attempt:

vPG = vPB + vBW + vWG
vPG = 6 km/h + 14 km/h - 6 km/h = 14 km/h

That is not the correct answer, though. The answer is 10 km/h. I keep trying different methods but this seems to be the most correct solution...but it's not.

Any help would be greatly appreciated! :)
 
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A man runs directly across the boat, from one side to the other, at 6 km/h
... which direction is he running compared with the direction the boat is moving?
 
You'll need to treat the velocities as vectors (taking into account that VPB is perpendicular to VBW and VWG).
 
Simon Bridge said:
... which direction is he running compared with the direction the boat is moving?

That is the question word for word, and I agree that it is ambiguous.
 
TSny said:
You'll need to treat the velocities as vectors (taking into account that VPB is perpendicular to VBW and VWG).

Okay...I treated it as vBW and vPB as parallel since that's what my impression was from reading the question.

I guess that clears up things quite nicely. Thanks.
 
That is the question word for word, and I agree that it is ambiguous.
I don't think it was ambiguous at all - I was trying to direct your attention to the wording.
But you got there in the end.

It can be tricky interpreting word questions. For future reference:

The question says he runs "from one side to the other" ... which would be 90deg to the direction of travel, unless the boat was traveling sideways or something.

The "boat traveling sideways" is the sort of thing the question would make a point of telling you ;)

If he were running parallel to the direction of travel, then he's be going from "front to back" or "from bow to stern" or similar description.
 

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