How Is the Surface Area of a Rotated Curve Calculated Using Integrals?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the surface area of a surface formed by rotating a curve defined by the function y = f(x) around the x-axis between specified limits. The original poster presents a formula involving an integral that includes the function and its derivative, seeking clarification on the parameterization of the surface.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss parameterizing the surface using variables related to x and f(x), with some expressing confusion over the complexity of the approach. Questions arise about the validity of using partial derivatives and the need for additional parameters in the parameterization.

Discussion Status

Some participants are exploring different parameterization methods, with one suggesting the use of trigonometric functions as a simpler alternative. There is an ongoing exchange of ideas regarding the setup of the problem and the necessary parameters for the surface representation.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the assumption that f(x) is non-negative over the specified interval and discuss the implications of this assumption on the surface area calculation. There is also mention of the need for clarity in the equations presented, as some participants find the initial equations insufficiently detailed.

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Homework Statement



Consider the surface S formed by rotating the graph of y = f(x) around the x-axis between x = a and x = b. Assume that f(x) ≥ 0 for axb. Show that the surface area of S is 2π times integral of f(x)sqrt(1 + f ' (x)^2) dx from a to b.

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Homework Equations



The integral of the magnitude of the cross product of the partial derivatives of parameterization vector, r = r(s,t). The region is R.

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried parameterizing the surface with parameters of x and f(x). The surface I set as g(x,f(x)). But when I took the cross product of that thing, I ended up with a useless statement involving partial derivatives which does not lead to the solution.

Homework Statement


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The Attempt at a Solution

 
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countzander said:

Homework Equations


The integral of the magnitude of the cross product of the partial derivatives of parameterization vector, r = r(s,t). The region is R.
That's not an equation. Can you elaborate?
I tried parameterizing the surface with parameters of x and f(x). The surface I set as g(x,f(x)). But when I took the cross product of that thing, I ended up with a useless statement involving partial derivatives which does not lead to the solution.
Please post details of you working.
 
hi countzander! :smile:
countzander said:
I tried parameterizing the surface with parameters of x and f(x) …

why so complicated? :cry:

just use trig! :smile:

(and f' = tan)
 
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countzander said:

Homework Statement



Consider the surface S formed by rotating the graph of y = f(x) around the x-axis between x = a and x = b. Assume that f(x) ≥ 0 for axb. Show that the surface area of S is 2π times integral of f(x)sqrt(1 + f ' (x)^2) dx from a to b.

http://i.imgur.com/qFeGP.png

Homework Equations



The integral of the magnitude of the cross product of the partial derivatives of parameterization vector, r = r(s,t). The region is R.

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried parameterizing the surface with parameters of x and f(x). The surface I set as g(x,f(x)).

That isn't two parameters. ##x## is free to use as a parameter but then ##f(x)## is determined. You need another parameter if you want to do it that way. I would suggest ##\theta##, the angle of rotation as the second parameter. Express your surface as$$
\vec R(x,\theta) = \langle x, ?, ?\rangle$$where the question marks are the appropriate expressions for ##y## and ##z## in terms of ##x,\, f(x),\, \theta##.
 

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