How is time related to black holes besides time dilation?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores the relationship between time and black holes, specifically beyond the concept of time dilation. Participants consider various theoretical perspectives on how time interacts with black holes in the context of general relativity and quantum mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about other aspects of time that may be illustrated by black holes, seeking to expand the discussion beyond gravitational time dilation.
  • One participant suggests that the singularity represents a spatial location that is in the future of all events within the event horizon, indicating a significant bending of spacetime.
  • Another participant questions the implications of being inside a black hole, wondering how one could perceive events outside as accelerating towards the future while the singularity is considered a future time location.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express curiosity and propose various ideas, but there is no consensus on the relationship between time and black holes beyond time dilation. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views.

Contextual Notes

Participants' claims depend on interpretations of spacetime and the nature of singularities, which may involve unresolved assumptions and definitions.

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Black Holes Relation To "Time"

Hello All,

Thanks for fielding my first question here. It looks as though "Physics Forums" will be a tremendous resource for me.

This is not a homework question. Rather, I am working on a broadcast documentary.

Is the concept of "time" (in the Newtonian, Einstienian, or quantum sense) related to black holes in any way other the Time Dilation?

Thanks,
 
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Can anyone think of other elements of time which may be illustrated by a black hole?
 


Hmm, other then gravitational time dilation... How would a black hole relate to time? I wonder...
 


Hi sciroccokid,

I think that the main relationship to time is that the singularity is a spatial location that is in the future of all events in the event horizon. Basically spacetime is bent so far that the coordinate time axis becomes spacelike.
 


DaleSpam said:
Hi sciroccokid,

I think that the main relationship to time is that the singularity is a spatial location that is in the future of all events in the event horizon. Basically spacetime is bent so far that the coordinate time axis becomes spacelike.

Hmm, Interesting I had never thought of that.
 


DaleSpam said:
Hi sciroccokid,

I think that the main relationship to time is that the singularity is a spatial location that is in the future of all events in the event horizon. Basically spacetime is bent so far that the coordinate time axis becomes spacelike.

But if you are in a black hole, don't you watch everything outside accelerate towards the future? If this is the case, how can the inside of a black hole be in a future time?
 

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