How Long Does It Take for Charge to Reach 1/e of Maximum in an RC Circuit?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves an RC circuit where a capacitor is charged through a resistor, and the task is to determine the time it takes for the charge on the capacitor to reach 1/e of its maximum value. The subject area is electrical circuits, specifically focusing on capacitor charging behavior in RC circuits.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the exponential nature of charging in RC circuits and the relationship between charge and time. There are attempts to clarify the meaning of maximum charge and how to apply the relevant equations. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of variables in the equations and the calculation of time constants.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the problem, specifically regarding the use of the equation for charge in an RC circuit. There is acknowledgment of confusion around the definitions of maximum charge and the variables involved. While one participant claims to have resolved their confusion, others continue to seek clarity on specific calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the relationship between q_max and Q_final, and there is mention of potential miscalculations affecting their understanding of the problem. The original poster indicates a struggle with algebraic manipulation in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement



A 1.47 micro F capacitor is charged through a 123 Ohm resistor and then discharged through the same resistor by short-circuiting the battery.

While the capacitor is being charged, find the time for the charge on its plates to reach 1/e of its maximum value.

Homework Equations



q = Q_final[1-e^(-t/RC)], (q)/(Q_final) = [1-e^(-t/RC)]


The Attempt at a Solution



Firstly, forgive my ignorance.

Well, I know that when charging an RC-circuit, the current decreases exponentially with time and the charge on the capacitor increases with time as the capacitor charges. Using the above equation, I assume we should be able to calculate a time constant, when t = RC, so that the charge would be 1-1/e of its final value. Though this will probably be straightforward to everyone else here, it's still not clear for me how to approach this. If I straightforwardly find the product of the capacitance and resistance, I'm only finding the aforementioned 1-1/e of the maximum value, correct? I'm beginning to become very muddled about this problem, and I can't tell if I'm fudging the the math (perhaps I just need an Algebra problem-solving review), or if my conception of the problem is way off. If anyone can provide a suggestions or hints as of how to approach this problem, I would greatly appreciate it. I apologize if this has been a waste of your time.

Thanks,

Austin
 
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First off, they're asking you to find 1/e of qmax. If you look at the equation you've typed out, the max value is when t is infinity (or a very large amount of time compared to the rest of the quantities). This gives you qmax.

Then replace q by qmax*1/e in the same equation and calculate the time required from that.
 
chaoseverlasting said:
First off, they're asking you to find 1/e of qmax. If you look at the equation you've typed out, the max value is when t is infinity (or a very large amount of time compared to the rest of the quantities). This gives you qmax.

Then replace q by qmax*1/e in the same equation and calculate the time required from that.

Okay. Would this mean that q_max and Q_final are equal? I'm inclined to say no because I keep reaching the same (wrong) calculation. I can't figure out any way to find them without eliminating them from both sides of the equation. I keep getting that t=RC, which I know is wrong. What am I not understanding?
 
Thanks for your help, I finally figured it out. I think I was just miscalculating and making some stupid mistakes.
 

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