How Long Until Materials In this Project Become Degraded

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The discussion centers around the durability and degradation timeline of materials used in an unfinished high-rise condo/hotel project in the Gulf of Thailand, specifically focusing on steel and concrete. Participants explore how long these materials can last before significant degradation occurs, considering both theoretical and practical aspects.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that concrete can last from decades to millennia, depending on its type, referencing the longevity of Roman concrete structures.
  • Another participant highlights that exposed steel will oxidize over time, indicating that while it takes a long time for rebar to rust through, it is an eventual outcome.
  • A claim is made that rebar can rust to the point of being useless within decades to centuries.
  • One participant shares a personal anecdote about breaking pieces of rusted rebar by hand, suggesting that degradation can lead to significant structural weaknesses.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the longevity of materials, particularly regarding the degradation timeline of steel and concrete. There is no consensus on a specific timeframe for when the materials will become degraded.

Contextual Notes

The discussion lacks specific definitions of the types of concrete and steel being referenced, and the assumptions regarding environmental factors affecting degradation are not fully explored.

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This unfinished high rise condo/hotel in gulf of Thailand has been in incomplete state for about 3 years.
How long can the materials last in terms of the project being completed ?
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There is exposed steel there which will oxidize. It takes a long time to rust through rebar, but it will happen.
 
Rebar rusts to uselessness in order of decades to centuries.
 
Kevin McHugh said:
There is exposed steel there which will oxidize. It takes a long time to rust through rebar, but it will happen.

Yep, I've snapped quite a few pieces by hand when I was kid working construction in SFl.
 
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