How Many Air Molecules are Contained in a Smooth Cylinder at Equilibrium?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the number of air molecules contained in a smooth cylindrical container with a piston, given specific conditions such as mass, area, height, atmospheric pressure, and temperature. The subject area includes gas laws and thermodynamics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the ideal gas law and the conversion of units. There is an exploration of how to calculate pressure within the system and its impact on the overall calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants affirm the original poster's method while questioning unit conversions. There is a recognition of a potential oversight regarding the pressure calculations, leading to further inquiry about the pressure exerted by the air inside the cylinder.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of considering the entire system's pressure and ensuring all values are in the correct units for accurate calculations. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their approach and seeks clarification on specific aspects of the problem.

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Homework Statement


A smooth, well-greased insulated cylindrical container with a metal base has a light (so you can neglect its weight), airtight piston that can frictionlessly move up and down the inside of the container. A mass M = 73 kg sits on top of the piston. The piston has a circular cross-section of area 0.032 m2, and is in equilibrium at a height of 4.7 cm above the base of the cylinder. The cylinder sits in equilibrium in a room that is at atmospheric pressure and a temperature of 22 °C.

How many air molecules are contained inside the cylinder beneath the piston?


Homework Equations



pV=nRT

p= (force)/(area) in N/m^2 Or Pa
Volume of cylinder= pi*r^2*h
A=area
Force = mass*gravity => mg
Avogadro's # = 6.02x10^23
R=8.31 J/(mol K)
T=temp in Kelvin

The Attempt at a Solution



pV=nRT

(m*g)/A)*(pi*r^2*h) = nRT

(mg/A)*(pi*(A/pi)*h) = nRT

(mg/A)*(A*h) = nRT

mgh = nRT

mgh/RT =n

n * avogadro's Number gives molecules.

im not sure what I am doing wrong...
 
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I think your method is correct. Did you convert all your numbers to the correct units?
 
rock.freak667 said:
I think your method is correct. Did you convert all your numbers to the correct units?

I think so, i converted height to meters and temp to kelvin.
 
i think my mistake is in the amount of pressure. i didn't take into account the whole system. how can i calculate the pressure of the entire system? specifically, the pressure of the air inside the cylinder pushing upward on the piston .Edit:
ok i figured it out.
 
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Solution:

pV / RT=n

( ((Atmospheric pressure) + (Pressure of system) ) * (volume at eq) ) / (R*T)

[ (101,325 pa) + ( ((73 kg)*(9.8 m/s^2)) / (.032 m^2) ) * ( ( .032 m^2) * (.047 m) ) ] / ( (8.3 J/mol K)*(295 K) ) = .076 mols

.076 mols * (6.02*10^23 mol^-1) = 4.6*10^22 molecules
 

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