How many air molecules are there inside the tire?

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The problem involves calculating the number of air molecules in a car tire given its volume, gauge pressure, and temperature. The subject area relates to gas laws and molecular calculations in physics.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the difference between gauge pressure and absolute pressure, questioning the necessity of adding atmospheric pressure to the gauge pressure for the calculation.

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Participants are exploring the implications of gauge pressure versus absolute pressure in the context of the ideal gas law. Some have provided clarifications regarding the definitions and conversions necessary for the calculations, but no consensus has been reached on the interpretation of the problem.

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The discussion highlights the need for understanding pressure definitions in physics problems, particularly in relation to atmospheric pressure and its role in calculations involving gases.

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Homework Statement



A car tire has a volume of 10 L and is inflated to a gauge pressure of 30 psi (207,000 Pa) at 20°C. How many air molecules are there inside the tire?

Homework Equations


N = PV/ kbT

The Attempt at a Solution



(207,000 Pa )x (0.01 m3) / (1.38 x 10^-21 x 293) =5.12 x 10^23

However, my instructor's answer is:
( 101,000 + 207,000 Pa )x(0.01 m3) / (1.38 x 10-21 x 293) = 7.6 x 10^23

Where is he getting that extra 101,000 that he is adding to the pressure??
 
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Where is he getting that extra 101,000 that he is adding to the pressure??
Gauge pressure means the pressure that would be shown on a standard pressure gauge. That would be relative to ambient pressure. For the calculation you need absolute pressure, so atmospheric pressure must be added.
 
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30 psi is the gauge pressure. A gauge under atmospheric pressure reads zero.

Edit: oops haruspex said it first
 
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A gauge pressure of 30 psi means an absolute pressure of 30+14.7= 44-7 psi. The ideal gas law uses the absolute pressure, not the gauge pressure.
 

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