How Many Gallons Should Be Delivered to Have a Probability of 0.1?

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The problem involves a commercial water distributor supplying water in tens of gallons, modeled as a random variable with a specified probability density function (pdf). The task is to determine the amount of water to be delivered such that the probability of the supply meets a certain threshold of 0.1.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the interpretation of the probability statement, questioning whether it refers to the probability of at least a certain amount or at most that amount. There are attempts to derive the cumulative distribution function (cdf) and set it equal to 0.1, alongside integration approaches to find the appropriate value of y.

Discussion Status

Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly regarding the meaning of the probability of the supply being 0.1. Some participants have provided guidance on integrating the pdf and clarifying the definitions of cumulative probability, while others are attempting to resolve the correct approach to solving for y.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty about the exact wording of the problem statement as presented to the participants, which may affect the interpretation of the probability requirement.

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Homework Statement



A commercial water distributor supplies an office with gallons of water once
a week. Suppose that the weekly supplies in tens of gallons is a random
variable with pdf



f(x) = 5(1-x)^4 , 0 < x <1

f(x) = 0 , elsewhere

Approx how many gallons should be delivered in one week so that the probability of the supply is 0.1?

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I started out by finding the cdf


F(y) = 0 , y < 0

F(y) = -(1-y)^5 + 1 , 0 ≤ y < 1

F(y) = 1 , y ≥ 1



Here is where i get lost. So y is our gallons (in tens). We want to find the amount of gallons that yields a probability of 0.1

p(y≤t) = F(t) = 0.1 thus

-(1-y)^5 + 1 = 0.1


When I solve for y I do not get the right answer which is apparently 4 gallons
 
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Is that exact wording of the problem statement as given to you?
 
DotKite said:
Approx how many gallons should be delivered in one week so that the probability of the supply is 0.1?

p(y≤t) = F(t) = 0.1 thus

-(1-y)^5 + 1 = 0.1
Clearly the probability of any specific quantity is zero, so is the question asking for a y such that the probability of at least y is .1 or the probability of at most y is .1? you have interpreted it the second way.
 
DotKite said:

Homework Statement



A commercial water distributor supplies an office with gallons of water once
a week. Suppose that the weekly supplies in tens of gallons is a random
variable with pdf



f(x) = 5(1-x)^4 , 0 < x <1

f(x) = 0 , elsewhere

Approx how many gallons should be delivered in one week so that the probability of the supply is 0.1?
I am not clear on what "the probability of the supply is 0.1" means. I suspect you mean "the probability that the amount actually supplied is at least y is 0.1". That means that you want to find y such that [tex]\int_0^y 5(1- x)^4 dx[/tex].

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I started out by finding the cdf


F(y) = 0 , y < 0

F(y) = -(1-y)^5 + 1 , 0 ≤ y < 1

F(y) = 1 , y ≥ 1



Here is where i get lost. So y is our gallons (in tens). We want to find the amount of gallons that yields a probability of 0.1

p(y≤t) = F(t) = 0.1 thus

-(1-y)^5 + 1 = 0.1


When I solve for y I do not get the right answer which is apparently 4 gallons
To integrate [itex]\int_0^y 5(1- x)^4 dx= 0.1[/itex] let u= 1- x so that du= -dx, when x= 0, u= 1, and when x= y, u= 1- y so that the integral becomes [itex]5\int_1^{1- y} u^4(-du)= \int_{1- y}^1 u^4 du[/itex]
 
HallsofIvy said:
I am not clear on what "the probability of the supply is 0.1" means. I suspect you mean "the probability that the amount actually supplied is at least y is 0.1". That means that you want to find y such that [tex]\int_0^y 5(1- x)^4 dx[/tex].


To integrate [itex]\int_0^y 5(1- x)^4 dx= 0.1[/itex] let u= 1- x so that du= -dx, when x= 0, u= 1, and when x= y, u= 1- y so that the integral becomes [itex]5\int_1^{1- y} u^4(-du)= \int_{1- y}^1 u^4 du[/itex]

He did that integration already in his OP. The real issue seems to be that he/she does not know whether or not to solve F(y) = 0.1 or 1-F(y) = 0.1.
 
Hello, DotKite.

You did the integration correctly. The problem is that you solved for the variable incorrectly.

By definition of probability of continuous variable, if $F(y)$ is cdf, we mean:

##F(y) = P(Y \leq y)##

With a lower bound ##a##, ##P(a \leq Y \leq y) = F(y) - F(a)##

You also wrote out the expression correctly, but the wrong value. Try to solve for ##y## again, and you should get the correct answer.
 

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