How many non-professors read research journals for fun?

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The discussion revolves around the interest of non-professors in reading research journals and advanced textbooks for enjoyment, particularly in the fields of physics and mathematics. Participants share their personal experiences and backgrounds related to this topic.

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  • One participant mentions the difficulty of obtaining tenure and questions whether those who do not achieve it still engage with research journals for enjoyment.
  • Another participant shares their father's habit of reading research journals for fun, suggesting that there may be others who do the same.
  • A participant with a master's in math discusses their leisure reading of physics texts, specifically mentioning their interest in quantum mechanics and general relativity, and their plans to read a book by Carroll.
  • Another non-faculty participant states they regularly read physics and optical journals, as well as graduate texts, indicating a strong interest in these subjects outside of a formal academic setting.

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Participants express a shared interest in reading advanced scientific literature for enjoyment, but there is no consensus on the prevalence of this behavior among non-professors. Multiple personal experiences are presented without a definitive conclusion.

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Participants' backgrounds vary, with some having formal education in math or physics while others come from different fields, such as software engineering. The discussion reflects a range of motivations and levels of engagement with the material.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals in STEM fields, particularly those considering reading advanced texts or journals outside of a professional or academic context.

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After all, tenure is incredibly hard to get - and most people who strive for it don't earn it.

So for those who couldn't get tenure (and a lot other interested people) - do they still read research journals for fun? (or say, read through graduate level textbooks in other fields for fun)?

I just read a review of this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0805387323/?tag=pfamazon01-20

which said...

My comments come with a few caveats.

1. This is my fourth GR book.
2. I'm not hardcore into physics. I'm not a physics grad and I'm reading GR for fun. I have a decent graduate math background but I've been corrupted with 10+ years in working in various roles software engineering, electronics engineering and marketing.
3. I assume that since you're considering buying this book, you're goal is to get at the "real" GR, not the watered down discover channel version.

With these caveats in mind, here are my comments.

First, on a scale of 1-5, I rank Carroll at level 3 in terms of math/physics maturity and thoroughness. Here is my full ranking of authors from my limited reading: 1. schutz 2. hartle 3. penrose 3. carroll 4. wald 5. physics journal articles

Second, using the rankings above, I recommend Carroll as the second port of entry. If you're comfortable with multivariable calculus, start with schutz (#1). You'll get warm fuzzies doing the toy exercises. But Schutz is tensor/math-lite. If you've had advanced calculus and geometry already, jump in with carroll (#3). But you'll be hard-pressed to find anyone else as polite to the reader. He won't prepare you for 80 percent of what's published. If you're ready to throw off the training wheels and jump dive into mainstream GR go with Wald (#4).

Note that Hartle (#2) is a good "tweener" book with feel-good exercises and some of the full-on GR equations at the end. I bet most instructors teaching a first year grad course would go with Hartle along with a dose of supplementary material.

Third, don't expect Carroll to be your last GR book purchase if you want to reach the promised land (see caveat #4). Living and breathing GR is found in physics journals and for that you'll need Wald or another advanced GR book.
 
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My father works at Pfizer and always is reading research journals just for fun. He's been in a few so those are always cool to read and I usually check those out. there's got to be some more people who read them just for the fun of it. I know my father is so absorbed in Chemistry it is practically all he does (with the exception of the weekends of course).
 
My background is similar. I have a masters in math, but work as a software engineer. I read physics texts in my leisure time. Mostly I stick to QM, but I did read the first 8 chapters of Schutz's First Course in GR. I met Professor Carroll when he gave a lecture at Stony Brook. He is a very entertaining speaker. I plan to read his book next. I am taking a break just now by reading a freshman chemistry book (not a very good one I'm afraid). My favorite text is Principles of QM by Dirac.
 
I am not a faculty member but I read a host of physics and optical journals every month. I also spend a bunch of time reading and rereading graduate texts.
 

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