How much energy is released in the explosion?

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The problem involves a 20.0-kg particle shot horizontally at a height of 100 m, which explodes into two fragments at an angle of 35° below the horizontal. The discussion centers on calculating the energy released during the explosion and determining the time it takes for the fragments to reach the ground.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of vertical and horizontal components of velocity at the moment of explosion. There are questions about the correct application of trigonometric functions to find these components. Some participants suggest using conservation of momentum to find the velocities of the fragments and to calculate the change in kinetic energy.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring different methods to calculate velocities and kinetic energy. Some guidance has been offered regarding the conservation of momentum and the equations for kinetic energy, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or final answers yet.

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Homework Statement


A 20.0–kg particle is shot horizontally with an initial speed v0 = 10 m/s at a height of
100 m above the ground level (see figure). The particle explodes into identical fragments
when its velocity makes an angle of 35° below the horizontal. Immediately after the
explosion, one fragment moves down vertically; while the other fragment moves initially
horizontally. (Neglect the effect of gravitational force during the explosion).

a) How much energy is released in the explosion?
b) At what times will the two fragments reach the ground?

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I didn't reach to the answers yet ,, i just got Vy at angle (35) and it's Vy=7 m/s and i don't know what else to do ,, any ideas ??
 

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Can you show how you got your Vy?

If the Vx = 10 and sinθ =.574 wouldn't Vy need to be 5.74 m/s?

That should allow you to figure the height above the ground the block would be at explosion.

Since momentum will be conserved in both directions then you can figure the resulting velocities of the two pieces. Armed with the velocities then you can let the kinetic energy tell you how much it changed. And let kinematics tell you when they each arrived at the ground.
 
LowlyPion said:
Can you show how you got your Vy?

If the Vx = 10 and sinθ =.574 wouldn't Vy need to be 5.74 m/s?

Vxcos(35)=10 , Vysin(35)=?? >> tan(35)=Vy/Vx .. Vy=7 m/s is it wrong ?


another question ,, after i get Vx and Vy at angle (35) i do the following right ? :
VyM=VyM/2 ,, VxM=VxM/2 then I'll get the velocities of the fragment then I'll get the time right ?
 
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Lord Dark said:
Vxcos(35)=10 , Vysin(35)=?? >> tan(35)=Vy/Vx .. Vy=7 m/s is it wrong ?

and btw it's shot horizontally so if Vy=Vosin(35) then Vx=Vocos(35) ?? i know that Vx don't change if there are no forces on the object...

another question ,, after i get Vx and Vy at angle (35) i do the following right ? :
VyM=VyM/2 ,, VxM=VxM/2 then I'll get the velocities of the fragment then I'll get the time right ?

Sorry you're right it is Tan35. I grabbed the wrong hippopotamus.
 
Lord Dark said:
another question ,, after i get Vx and Vy at angle (35) i do the following right ? :
VyM=VyM/2 ,, VxM=VxM/2 then I'll get the velocities of the fragment then I'll get the time right ?

For the conservation of momentum, I think you want to consider the x,z separately. You already have the initial x,y velocities.

So yes the velocities will each apparently be doubled as you suggest.
 
LowlyPion said:
For the conservation of momentum, I think you want to consider the x,z separately. You already have the initial x,y velocities.

you mean x,y ?? because from 1 piece to 2 fragments and one will fall vertically and the second horizontally ,, so i think VyM=vyM/2 , VxM=vxM/2 i'll get the vertical and horizontal velocity of the fragments right ?
vy=14 m/s
vx=20 m/s
and i get Y(where the fragments explode)=2.5 m is this right ? or i should subtract 2.5 from 100 ?
and BTW about kinetic energy should I use this equation:
((0.5*M/2*Vfy^2)+(0.5*M/2*Vfx^2))-(0.5*M*Vix^2)
or
i should get Vf (sqrt(Vx^2+Vy^2)) and sum the mass so it'll be like this :
(0.5*M*Vf^2)-(0.5*M*Vi^2)

PS:i gt the kinetic energy = 1980 J and Ty=3.255s and Tx=4.461 ,, are my answers right or wrong ?
 
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Lord Dark said:
you mean x,y ?? because from 1 piece to 2 fragments and one will fall vertically and the second horizontally ,, so i think VyM=vyM/2 , VxM=vxM/2 i'll get the vertical and horizontal velocity of the fragments right ?
vy=14 m/s
vx=20 m/s
and i get Y(where the fragments explode)=2.5 m is this right ? or i should subtract 2.5 from 100 ?
and BTW about kinetic energy should I use this equation:
((0.5*M/2*Vfy^2)+(0.5*M/2*Vfx^2))-(0.5*M*Vix^2)
or
i should get Vf (sqrt(Vx^2+Vy^2)) and sum the mass so it'll be like this :
(0.5*M*Vf^2)-(0.5*M*Vi^2)

Your first kinetic energy difference looks right.

Yes, y looks like 97.5 m. Then you need to solve the two equations

97.5 = 14*t + 1/2*g*t2

and

97.5 = 1/2*g*t2
 
Lord Dark said:
PS:i gt the kinetic energy = 1980 J and Ty=3.255s and Tx=4.461 ,, are my answers right or wrong ?

The easy one to calculate is what I get. I'll suppose you can handled the quadratic OK, because it is less.

Kinetic energy looks ok too.
 
about the kinetic energy ,, my friend told me i should use the following equation:
(0.5*M/2*Vfy^2+0.5*M/2*Vfx^2)-0.5*M*(sqrt(Vix^2+Viy^2))^2
where Vfy=14 m/s , Vfx=20 m/s , Viy=7 m/s Vix=10 m/s
and i get from that K=1490J ,, so which one is right me or him ?

and thanks you LowlyPion very much for helping me
 
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Lord Dark said:
about the kinetic energy ,, my friend told me i should use the following equation:
(0.5*M/2*Vfy^2+0.5*M/2*Vfx^2)-0.5*M*(sqrt(Vix^2+Viy^2))^2
where Vfy=14 m/s , Vfx=20 m/s , Viy=7 m/s Vix=10 m/s
and i get from that K=1490J ,, so which one is right me or him ?

and thanks you LowlyPion very much for helping me

He's right. I see you left the additional vertical velocity from gravity out. (Sadly, I missed that and just used your expression.)
 
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lol ,, he's right again (he told me how to get Viy) ,, thanks very much :D
BTW can you check the site regularly until next Monday (the Exam date) i have some questions too ,, anyway ,, thanks :D
 

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