How much force will be required to remove the lid?

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In summary, the question asks how much force is needed to remove the lid of an airtight box with a removable lid of area 4·10-2 m2. The box is initially at a high altitude with a pressure of 0.81·105 Pa and is then taken to sea level with a pressure of 1.013·105 Pa. Using the equation F=PA, the force needed to remove the lid is calculated to be 3240 N at high altitude and 4052 N at sea level.
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Homework Statement


An airtight box has a removable (massless) lid of area 4·10-2 m2. A lid is placed on it while it is on top of a mountain (where Patm=0.81·105 Pa). It is then taken to sea level, where Patm = 1.013·105 Pa. How much force will be required to remove the lid?

Homework Equations


F=PA

The Attempt at a Solution


For the first part:
F=PA=.04 x 81000=3240 N
For the second part:
F=PA= .04 x 101200=4052 N

is there a change in pressure type of equation?
 
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You are only interested in the change of pressure. - this gives you the pressure differnce between the inside and outside of the box and so the force to open it
 
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I would like to clarify a few things before providing a response. Firstly, it is important to note that the question does not specify whether the lid is being removed slowly or quickly. This can affect the amount of force required as it can create a pressure difference between the inside and outside of the box.

Assuming that the lid is being removed slowly, the force required to remove the lid can be calculated using the equation F=PA, where F is the force, P is the pressure, and A is the area of the lid.

For the first part, the pressure inside the box is equal to the atmospheric pressure at the top of the mountain, which is 0.81 x 10^5 Pa. Therefore, the force required to remove the lid would be F=0.81 x 10^5 x 4 x 10^-2 = 3240 N.

For the second part, the pressure inside the box is equal to the atmospheric pressure at sea level, which is 1.013 x 10^5 Pa. Therefore, the force required to remove the lid would be F=1.013 x 10^5 x 4 x 10^-2 = 4052 N.

In conclusion, the amount of force required to remove the lid depends on the pressure difference between the inside and outside of the box. As the atmospheric pressure increases, the force required also increases. This can be seen in the calculations above.
 

1. What factors affect the amount of force needed to remove a lid?

The amount of force needed to remove a lid depends on several factors, such as the size and weight of the lid, the material it is made of, and the tightness of the lid's seal.

2. How can I calculate the force required to remove a lid?

To calculate the force needed, you can use the formula Force = Mass x Acceleration. Measure the mass of the lid and determine the acceleration needed to overcome the friction between the lid and the container.

3. Why does it require more force to open a tightly sealed lid?

When a lid is tightly sealed, there is more friction between the lid and the container, making it more difficult to break the seal. Therefore, more force is needed to overcome the resistance and open the lid.

4. What is the relationship between lid size and the amount of force needed to remove it?

The larger the lid, the more surface area there is for friction to occur. This means that larger lids generally require more force to open compared to smaller lids.

5. How can I reduce the force required to remove a lid?

To reduce the force needed, you can try applying a lubricant, such as oil or cooking spray, to the lid and container. This will help reduce the friction and make it easier to open the lid. Additionally, you can also try tapping or gently twisting the lid to break the seal before attempting to open it.

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