How much liquid water can be produced through condensation in one day

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The discussion centers around the potential amount of liquid water that can be produced through condensation in a desalinization project involving a heated pool of water, a chilled baffle, and a greenhouse environment. Participants explore the theoretical aspects of condensation rates based on various parameters such as temperature and energy availability.

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Main Points Raised

  • Rick Mannoia seeks feedback on the amount of water that can be produced through condensation, emphasizing the setup involving a heated pool, a chilled baffle, and a greenhouse.
  • Some participants note the lack of sufficient information, specifically questioning the average temperatures of the water and the baffles.
  • Rick clarifies that the water will be heated using black pipes and that the baffle will be cooled with running water, reiterating the need for an estimate of water production.
  • One participant provides a rough calculation based on solar energy availability, suggesting that approximately 144 kg of water could evaporate per hour under ideal conditions, while noting that actual power availability would affect this rate.
  • Rick further inquires about the impact of the cooled baffle on accelerating condensation and asks for estimates of daily water production in hot environments like Africa or India.

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Participants generally agree that more specific temperature information is needed to provide accurate estimates. There are multiple competing views regarding the calculations and assumptions about energy availability and environmental conditions, leaving the discussion unresolved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations such as the dependence on specific temperature values, the variability of solar energy based on location, and the assumptions made regarding the efficiency of the condensation process.

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I am working on a desalinization project and need technical advice. These are the basics:

If I have a 1,000 sq ft pool of heated water, covered with a chilled baffle, then enclosed in a greenhouse, how much liquid water can I produce through condensation in one day?

Any ideas or feedback would be helpful.

Thanks,

Rick Mannoia
 
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There isn't enough information. Whats the average temperature of the water and the baffles?
 
Drakkith said:
There isn't enough information. Whats the average temperature of the water and the baffles?

Water will run through black pipe and solar heated.
Baffels would be cooled with running water.
This entire unit would be encased in a green house.
I am looking for an IDEA of the amount of liquid possible. Any input or questions would be helpful.
Thanks,
Rick Mannoia
 
only order of magnitude numbers but: If the energy available is solar energy then you have about 1kW/m^2 (depends where you live)
1000 sqft is about 100sqmetres so about 100kW of available energy.
The latent heat of vaporisation for water is 2.3 x 10^6J/kg and so with 100kW of available energy water would evaporate at a rate of 100kW/2.3x10^6 kg/sec
ie about 0.04kg/sec that is 40 grams per second.which is about 144kg per hour
Obviously your available power will have an impact on this calculation but I hope it helps.
 
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The water would be heated from black pipe, similar to solar water heater for a swimming pool, and the metal baffle would have running chilled water continuing to keep it cool. The entire unit, 10 x 100 feet would be in a compact green house maximizing humidity.

Wouldn’t the fact that the baffle is cooled accelerate condensation?

If this unit were in a very hot environment; Africa, India, how many gallon per day could it produce?

Rick
 

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