How Much Should a Spring Be Compressed for a Roller Coaster to Complete a Loop?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving the conservation of energy in the context of a roller coaster car launched from a spring into a loop-the-loop track. The problem specifically addresses the minimum compression required of the spring for the car to maintain contact with the track.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conservation of energy principles, questioning the types of energy present at different points in the roller coaster's motion. There is an attempt to relate initial potential energy to kinetic energy at the top of the loop.

Discussion Status

Some participants have confirmed the correctness of the velocity calculation and are exploring the relationship between initial and final energies. There is an ongoing dialogue about identifying the types of energy involved at various points in the scenario, but no consensus has been reached yet.

Contextual Notes

The problem involves specific parameters such as the mass of the roller coaster car, the spring constant, and the radius of the loop, which are central to the discussion but not fully resolved in the current exchanges.

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Conservation of Energy please help!

Homework Statement



An 840 kg roller coaster car is launched from a giant spring of constant k=31kN/m into a frictionless loop-the-loop track of radius 6.2m, what is the minimum amount that the spring must be compressed if the car is to stay on the track?

Homework Equations



v=n+mg = (mv^2)/r
v= √(gr)

mgh=0.5mv^2

The Attempt at a Solution



mgh=0.5mv^2
mgh=0.5m √(gr)^2
mgh=0.5mgr
h = 0.5r
h= 3.1 m

and I am stuck after this... please help...

 
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Your velocity is correct.

It has initial energy which should be equal to the energy at the top point of the loop (what energies are present here?).
Find it's initial energy and set that equal to its final energy.
 


the initial energy is the potential energy right??
 


Yes and then there are two energies present at the top of the loop.
 

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