Spring compression to complete a loop (energy)

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a roller-coaster car being launched from a spring into a loop-the-loop track. The subject area includes concepts of energy conservation, specifically relating to spring potential energy, kinetic energy, and gravitational potential energy.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply energy conservation principles but questions the correctness of their calculations. Some participants suggest using the conservation of energy to find the minimum velocity required to complete the loop, indicating a formula for that velocity.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different interpretations of the energy conservation approach. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the initial velocity and the spring compression, but no consensus has been reached on the correct method or calculations.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes a discrepancy between their calculated spring compression and the expected answer, indicating potential misunderstandings or miscalculations that are under discussion.

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Homework Statement


An 840kg roller-coaster car is launched from a giant spring of constant k=31kN/m into a frictionless loop-the-loop track of radius 6.2m. What is the minimum amount that the spring must be compressed if the car is to stay on the track?


Homework Equations


Wspring=0.5kx^2
Wkinetic = 0.5mv^2
Wpotential = mgh

The Attempt at a Solution



I have an attempt but it is not correct and I would be thankful if someone could tell me why.
0.5kx^2=0.5mv^2=mgh
Thus x=(mgh*2/k)^0.5
x=(840*9.8*12.4*2/31000)^0.5
x=2.57m.
The answer should be 2.87m.
Thankful for any help.
 
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do some calculation using conservation of energy. you will find, minimum initial velocity required to complete a loop of radius R is

v = sqrt(5gR).

so 1/2 mv^2 = 1/2kx^2.

solve.
 
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supratim1 said:
do some calculation using conservation of energy. you will find, minimum initial velocity required to complete a loop of radius R is

v = sqrt(5gR).

so 1/2 mv^2 = 1/2kx^2.

solve.

Thank you very much!
 
you are welcome.
 

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