How Much Work Is Needed to Position a Charge in an Equilateral Triangle?

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The problem involves calculating the work required to position a charge in an equilateral triangle configuration with two existing charges. The context is rooted in electrostatics, specifically concerning the concepts of electric force, potential energy, and voltage.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between electric force and potential energy, with attempts to derive work done using integration and voltage concepts. Questions arise regarding the limits of integration and the implications of using scalar versus vector quantities in calculations.

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Several participants have contributed calculations related to electric field and potential, with some expressing confidence in their results. However, there remains a lack of explicit consensus on the approach to take, particularly regarding the integration limits and the treatment of electric field as a vector.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of electrostatic principles, including the definitions of work, electric field, and potential, while adhering to homework constraints that may limit the information provided.

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Homework Statement



situation:
there are two charges (+q) one at one corner of an equilateral triangle the other at another corner. the triangle has sides length a.

what is the work required to bring another charge (+q) in from infinity to the other corner on the equilateral triangle.

The Attempt at a Solution



ok so i know dW = -dU = F.dl

i thought that maybe finding (F) at the corner that we are bringing the charge to may help...this is:
Fc [at corner] = q2 / 2*pi*epsilon*a2

then i could just integrate this over the distance i am moving it with respect to a...however i know that the one limit will be [tex]\infty[/tex] however i don't know what the other will be

thanks for any help
 
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Consider the Voltage at the point from each of the 2 other charges.

V = k*q / r

Since work = q*ΔV

and V = 0

Then

Work = q*ΣV
 
ok so
the E at the point is 2q / 4*pi*epsilon*a2
the V at the point is 2q / 4*pi*epsilon*a

so work to bring in point is = q(2q / 4*pi*epsilon*a) = q2 / 2*pi*epsilon*a
 
indie452 said:
ok so
the E at the point is 2q / 4*pi*epsilon*a2
the V at the point is 2q / 4*pi*epsilon*a

so work to bring in point is = q(2q / 4*pi*epsilon*a) = q2 / 2*pi*epsilon*a

Looks like it.

Though E is a vector, don't forget, and V is a scalar here. In your first equation then the E would need to be added as vectors. Whereas for V you are adding scalars.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/mulpoi.html#c1
 
ok thanks...:biggrin:
 

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