How should 10 to be pronounced?

[symbolipoint]

How is 10 supposed to be pronounced? I do not mean, "ten". I mean the binary number written as 10.

Is it to be , "two", or "one zero"? Something else maybe, using a modifying description before saying the word?

 

[jackjack2025]

How is 10 supposed to be pronounced? I do not mean, "ten". I mean the binary number written as 10.

Is it to be , "two", or "one zero"? Something else maybe, using a modifying description before saying the word?

Two in Base two

 

[Mark44]

Is it to be , "two", or "one zero"?

"one zero"

Two in Base two

The only digits in binary (base-2) are zero and one. There's no digit for "two."

 

[Hornbein]

How is 10 supposed to be pronounced? I do not mean, "ten". I mean the binary number written as 10.

Is it to be , "two", or "one zero"? Something else maybe, using a modifying description before saying the word?

Onzer. Ten is onzeronzer.

 

[jackjack2025]

"one zero"
The only digits in binary (base-2) are zero and one. There's no digit for "two."

The problem is that if you say one zero, it is unclear what you mean. Do you mean ten, do you mean one-zero, do you mean two in base two? Do you mean something else?

How I wrote it is clear. Let's assume we live in Base two. How to express the number two in that world? 10. Two in base 2. The fact that two is not a digit in Base 2 is irrelevant.

 

[Mark44]

How is 10 supposed to be pronounced? I do not mean, "ten". I mean the binary number written as 10.

The problem is that if you say one zero, it is unclear what you mean. Do you mean ten, do you mean one-zero, do you mean two in base two? Do you mean something else?

@symbolipoint explicitly asked about the binary number 10 and how it should be pronounced. Since the context is clearly binary numbers, not decimal numbers, $10_2$ corresponds to $2_{10}$. How is that unclear? He was not asking about the decimal number ten.

Two in Base two

How would you pronounce $10100001_2$? Would you convert this binary number to decimal in your head or just read off the binary digits from left to right?

How I wrote it is clear. Let's assume we live in Base two. How to express the number two in that world?

As "one zero," as I already said. Counting in binary numbers goes like this: zero, one, one zero, one one, one zero zero, etc. The only numerals you have to work with are zero and one, so numbers larger than one are composed of a combination of zeros and ones.

 

[jackjack2025]

How would you pronounce $10100001_2$? Would you convert this binary number to decimal in your head or just read off the binary digits from left to right?



[/QUOTE]
Yes, 81 in Base 2

 

[Mark44]

Better check your mental arithmetic. Also, maybe you should learn how to use the quote feature better.

 

[jackjack2025]

Better check your mental arithmetic. Also, maybe you should learn how to use the quote feature better.

damnit. That why we should just use 0's and 1's :)

 

[Rive]

"one zero"

One-o, for short. Like the one in short.

 

[DaveC426913]

How would you pronounce $10100001_2$?

I think this is the litmus test.

I would pronounce 10100001 as "one-zero-one-zero ... zero-zero-zero-one".

Thus, "10" is pronounced "one-zero".

Whether or not a number is ambiguous in the absence of adequate context is an issue that is always present and debateable, but is immaterial to the pronunciation of what is asked for, above.

Note too, by the way, that it is still correct in the absense of any context. Which makes it extra correct.


[EDIT] I'm glad I could show up 3 months later, raise this decaying corpse from the dead, and settle it for poster who is no longer with us.

 

[symbolipoint]

.... But I am still with us.

 

[DaveC426913]

.... But I am still with us.

Well, oops.

I thought jackjack was the OP. Most humble apologies.

Fixed it.

 

[martinbn]

How is 100 base 10 called? It is a hundred. So why is it a problem for 10 base 2 to be called two?

 

[phinds]

How is 100 base 10 called? It is a hundred. So why is it a problem for 10 base 2 to be called two?

Because in English "two" means 2 base 10. If you want to talk about 10 base 2 you need to be specific that that is what you are talking about, unless there is a clear context that implies you are in base 2.

 

[martinbn]

Because in English "two" means 2 base 10. If you want to talk about 10 base 2 you need to be specific that that is what you are talking about, unless there is a clear context that implies you are in base 2.

I disagree. Two means the number two, which is independent of any representation.

 

[phinds]

Fair point, but if you say "two" to the average person, how many of them are going to think "10" vs how many will think 2? Yes, I KNOW they are the same thing but the representation does matter.

 

[symbolipoint]

I disagree. Two means the number two, which is independent of any representation.

I agree with @phinds. His explanation and one or two of the other members' posts were helpful in understanding original posted question. Obtainer and expresser must be clear which number system is being used (number BASE) so they know which kind of terminology to use.

 

[BillTre]

There is confusion here between a number line designation (second number from zero), the digits involved (ones, zeros, and twos), and the base system which can change the digits to designate the value (two).

Spelling all this out will make things clear, but make things more complicated and less fun to discuss (if you are not concerned about clarity).

Here is a relevant non-spoken joke:
There are 10 kinds of people, those that understand binary and those that don't.

 

[Rive]

Because in English "two" means 2 base 10.

It is a bit messy, but I think the exact meaning is more about this digit '2', with the base only assumed if used as number.
Can be used to describe numbers with only a base above two.

Could be worse, though...