How to Approach Proofs in Mathematics: Tips and Strategies

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The discussion revolves around a proof in mathematics concerning the existence of a real number between two arbitrary real numbers, x and y, where x is less than y. The original poster expresses difficulty in approaching rigorous proofs and seeks guidance on how to begin the proving process.

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  • Participants discuss the nature of the problem and suggest thinking about what it means to find a number between two others. There is a consideration of whether certain statements can be taken as obvious or require proof.

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Participants are exploring different perspectives on how to approach the proof, with some suggesting that the original poster consider simpler examples. There is an acknowledgment of the challenge in determining what needs to be proven versus what can be assumed as obvious.

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The original poster indicates a struggle with rigor in proofs and expresses a desire for general strategies rather than specific answers. There is an underlying concern about the appropriateness of labeling statements as obvious in the context of mathematical proofs.

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If x and y are arbitrary real numbers with x<y, prove that there is at least one real z satisfying x<z<y


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The problem arises from my inexperience in rigorously proving anything. If possible a general explanation of where to begin when trying to prove something rigorously would be more helpful than just the answer. I find that proofs generally seem obvious after i see them completed, but i sit for hours staring at them not knowing where to even remotely begin. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
 
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There is no general algorithm for attacking problems. But usually it helps to think about what the problem is really asking. For instance, for the problem you've posted, think about this: can you find a number between 0 and 1? In general, what's the natural choice for something that sits in between two other things? (Maybe something that's 'in the middle'?)
 
Ah! See, i feel really dumb now...haha...thanks. Hmmm...if i were to say something like, if x<y then (1/2)x is also less than y... would i then need to prove that? Or is that "obvious" enough to just simply state? I have a feeling that stating something as obvious is blasphemous in mathematics.
 
But is (1/2)x always greater than x?
 
Alright...thanks again! I think its just a matter of not over complicating things and thinking things through before trying to prove anything. Thanks!
 

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