Math proof: Linear Independence

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The discussion revolves around proving the linear independence of a vector in relation to a set of linearly independent vectors within a vector space. The original poster seeks to establish that if a vector cannot be expressed as a linear combination of a given set of vectors, then it must be linearly independent from that set.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various proof strategies, including proof by contradiction and contraposition. There is mention of the need to clarify the definitions and relationships between the vector and the set of vectors.

Discussion Status

Multiple approaches to the problem have been suggested, including the exploration of logical equivalences and the implications of linear dependence and independence. Participants are engaging with the concepts and attempting to refine their understanding without reaching a consensus on a specific method.

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There is an emphasis on using foundational axioms of vector spaces to support the proof, as well as considerations regarding the nature of infinite sets in the context of linear independence.

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Homework Statement


How can I show that if a vector (in a vector space V) cannot be written as a linear combination of a linearly independent set of vectors (also in space V) then that vector is linearly independent to the set?

Homework Equations


To really prove this rigorously it would make sense to use only the following axioms:
1)For every x,y in V, x+y is also in V.
2) (x+y)+z = x+(y+z) = x+y+z
3) 0 is in V, and 0+x = x for all x in V
4) All x in V have an inverse -x such that x+(-x)=0
5)For all scalars 'a' and 'b', a(bx) = (ab)x
6) For all x in V, 1x=x
7)For all scalars 'a' and 'b', (a+b)x = ax+bx
8)for all scalars 'a', a(x+y) = ax+ay
9)For all x in V, -x = (-1)x
10) A set of N linear independent vectors implies that if a linear combination of them is zero, then all the coefficients are zero.

The Attempt at a Solution


I feel like I need to use a proof by contradiction, but not really sure how to start. This is actually my simplification of the true proof, and that is to prove that all vectors can be written as a linear combination of a basis set.
 
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Firstly it's helpful to name the objects which you're dealing with. Say you have a vector ##v## and a set ##S = \{v_1,v_2, \ldots , v_n\}## of linear independent vectors ##v_i##. (With an infinite set things must be handled with a bit more care but the way is the same.) Next one usually assumes, that either ##v## can be written as linear combination of the ##v_i## and a contradiction is deduced, or one shows that all vectors ##v,v_1, \ldots v_n## are linear independent (see #10 in your list).
 
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You could argue by contraposition. That is, instead of proving that ##p \implies q## you could prove that ##\neg q \implies \neg p##, since they are logically equivalent.

The contrapositive of your problem: If a vector is linearly dependent to a set of linearly independent vectors, then that vector can be written as a linear combination of vectors in the set.
 
Mr Davis 97 said:
You could argue by contraposition. That is, instead of proving that ##p \implies q## you could prove that ##\neg q \implies \neg p##, since they are logically equivalent.

The contrapositive of your problem: If a vector is linearly dependent to a set of linearly independent vectors, then that vector can be written as a linear combination of vectors in the set.
There's also a proof by contradiction, where you assume that p is true and that q is false. If you arrive at a contradiction, then it must be true that ##p \implies q##.
The idea here is that ##\neg(p \wedge \neg q) \equiv p \implies q##
 

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