How to calculate a trapeze/ pendulum's arc distance

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This discussion focuses on calculating the arc distance of a trapeze or pendulum on the moon, emphasizing the relationship between tension force, gravitational force, and centripetal force. The key equations referenced include kinetic energy (KE=1/2 mv^2), potential energy (PE=mgh), and the period of a pendulum (T=2π√(L/g)). The user seeks to determine the length of the swing by analyzing the forces at play when the pendulum reaches its peak, where centripetal force (Fc) equals zero, leading to maximum potential energy. The amplitude of the swing is directly influenced by the initial speed of the pendulum at its lowest point.

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Homework Statement



This is an update to an earlier post. Since then, I now understand that a pendulum stops when its tension force= mg sin(theta)--because then centripetal force will=0, so velocity will be 0. However, now I am trying to determine how a trapeze would work on the moon.

Homework Equations



KE=1/2 mv^2
PE= mgh
T=2π√(L/g)
Fc=mv^2/r
Ft=Fc-mg sin(theta)
KE (initial) + PE (initial) = KE (final) + PE (final)

The Attempt at a Solution



Drawing a free body diagram, I determined that when an object peaks during its swing the following is true: Because the object is stopped, Fc=0. Because Fc=0 and the radius and mass are supposedly constant, velocity must=0. (That also means that it is 100% PE). Because Ft - mg sin (theta) = 0, then Ft= mg sin (theta). I am trying to determine what sin (theta) is, because then I can determine the length of the swing on the moon. However, I do not know how to determine Ft so I thought I would try using the other method while using T=2π√(L/g). However, I do not know how I can use the time to determine the length of the arc

Thanks so much
 
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The amplitude (length of swing) depends on how fast the pendulum was pushed to begin with, i.e., its speed when it is at the lowest point. That, and conservation of energy, result in a particular amplitude.
 
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