How to Calculate Force of Water in Rotating Pail | Physics Problem

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The problem involves a pail of water being rotated in a vertical circle with a radius of 1.4 m, under the influence of gravity (9.8 m/s²). The original poster seeks to determine the force exerted by the water on the bottom of the pail when it is at the lowest point in its circular path, noting that the pail is rotated at a constant rate.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the application of Newton's second law, with one suggesting the use of free body diagrams to clarify forces acting on the pail. There is a mention of the net force and the distinction between normal force and weight. Questions arise regarding the forces exerted by the water and the nature of centripetal force.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of the forces involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of free body diagrams and the need to consider net forces. Multiple interpretations of the forces acting on the pail are being examined, but no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working within the context of dynamics and uniform circular motion, and there may be assumptions about the minimum speed required for the water to remain in the pail throughout the rotation.

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a pail of water is rotated in a vertical circle of r=1.4m acceleration of gravity 9.8m/s^2

the pail is rotated at a constant rate so it has the minimum speed at all points along its circular path. the water has a mass m.
when the pail is at the bottom of the circle, what is the magnitude of the force exerted by the water on the bottom of the pail?

F=ma=0 since it is at a constant rate right?

but then i don't know what to do next?
 
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nrc_8706 said:
a pail of water is rotated in a vertical circle of r=1.4m acceleration of gravity 9.8m/s^2
the pail is rotated at a constant rate so it has the minimum speed at all points along its circular path. the water has a mass m.
when the pail is at the bottom of the circle, what is the magnitude of the force exerted by the water on the bottom of the pail?
F=ma=0 since it is at a constant rate right?
but then i don't know what to do next?

Nay! Draw out your free body diagrams, that should help.

Also, I notice a lot of people making this mistake. Saying F = ma is rarely true. Always remember to add your sigma

[tex]\sum F = ma[/tex]
 
?

normal force is upward and weight is downward

Fnet=Fn-mg?
 
Help!

CAN ANYBODY HELP ME?!:cry:
 
nrc_8706 said:
CAN ANYBODY HELP ME?!:cry:

the water exerts two forces onto the pail... can you name them?
 
:confused: its weight and...:confused:
 
Centripital Force
 
...

ok so its F=4mg or F=2mg?
 
centripetal force is defined by equation:

Fc = (m*v^2)/r
 
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gracias

:rolleyes: thanks for everything but I am just not understanding
 
  • #11
What is your current curriculum/topic in class?
 
  • #12
Dynamics Of Uniform Circular Motion
 

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