How to calculate instantaneous speed from a speed - time graph?

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The discussion revolves around calculating instantaneous speed from a speed-time graph, exploring definitions and methods related to this concept.

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  • Participants discuss the definition of instantaneous speed and its representation on a graph. Some suggest using calculus for precise calculations, while others propose approximation methods for those unfamiliar with calculus.

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There is a mix of approaches being explored, including both graphical methods and calculus-based methods. Some participants affirm the idea that instantaneous speed can be read directly from the graph, while others elaborate on approximation techniques.

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Participants mention the need for calculus knowledge to accurately determine instantaneous speed, while also discussing alternative methods for those who may not have that background.

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How to calculate instantaneous speed from a speed - time graph?
 
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Seniour Baloc said:
How to calculate instantaneous speed from a speed - time graph?

What is the definition of instantaneous speed?
 
If you know calculus, it should be pretty easy.

If you don't, you'll have to just use the average speed over a tiny interval of time as an approximation or learn calculus.
 
A method of getting (an approximation to) instantaneous speed from a graph, that I learned back in secondary school, is this: hold a small pocket mirror on the graph at the point desired and slowly turn it until the graph appears to go "smoothly" into its image in the mirrow. Hold the mirror in place there and use it as straight edge to draw a line perpendicular to the graph. Now do the same thing, rotating the mirror around that point until this new line appears to go "smoothly" into its image in the mirror. Use the mirror as a straight edge to draw the line perpendicular to this line and so tangent to the curve. Now you can extend that line as much as you need to be able to find "rise" and "run" and find the slope of that tangent line. On a "distance vs time" graph that will be the "speed" at that point.
 
On a speed-time graph, the instantaneous speed is the speed displayed on the graph at any point.
 
HallsofIvy said:
A method of getting (an approximation to) instantaneous speed from a graph, that I learned back in secondary school, is this: hold a small pocket mirror on the graph at the point desired and slowly turn it until the graph appears to go "smoothly" into its image in the mirrow. Hold the mirror in place there and use it as straight edge to draw a line perpendicular to the graph. Now do the same thing, rotating the mirror around that point until this new line appears to go "smoothly" into its image in the mirror. Use the mirror as a straight edge to draw the line perpendicular to this line and so tangent to the curve. Now you can extend that line as much as you need to be able to find "rise" and "run" and find the slope of that tangent line. On a "distance vs time" graph that will be the "speed" at that point.

If you don't know calculus, you can use the method described by HallsofIvy, however the mirror won't be necessary. You just estimate the tangent line to the x-t graph (as stated by another person; speed-time graphs show the instantaneous speed at every point) and you take the slope of said tangent line.

If you do know calculus, you have to calculate the derivative of the x(t)-function, which will give you the v(t)-function.
 
Chestermiller said:
On a speed-time graph, the instantaneous speed is the speed displayed on the graph at any point.
Great answer Chestermiller !
 
Chestermiller said:
On a speed-time graph, the instantaneous speed is the speed displayed on the graph at any point.

I know, right? I was going to say this!

He must have meant x-t graph.
 

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