How to Calculate RMS Current and Voltage in an AC Magnetic Circuit?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the RMS current and voltage in an AC magnetic circuit, specifically focusing on a scenario where an alternating current in coil A generates a magnetic flux with a peak value of 1.2T. Participants explore the relationships between magnetomotive force (MMF), reluctance, and magnetic flux, while also addressing the necessary calculations to derive the required RMS values.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines the relationship F = R * Flux and expresses uncertainty about substituting the peak flux value into the equation to solve for current.
  • Another participant inquires about the permeability, suggesting that relative permeability is 10,000 and should be multiplied by a constant (uo).
  • A participant confirms the correctness of the equation NI = flux * reluctance and suggests that the participant should solve for I, noting that RMS current requires division by √2.
  • There is a mention of needing to apply Faraday's law to determine the voltages across the windings.
  • One participant points out that there are two reluctance paths to consider in the calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the relationships between MMF, reluctance, and flux, but there are differing views on the steps needed to calculate the RMS current and voltages, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not explicitly stated all assumptions, such as the specific values for area or reluctance, and there are unresolved mathematical steps regarding the calculation of RMS values and voltages.

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the question is;


if there only a current in coil a, and it is AC, calculate the rms current required in coil a to maintain an alternating flux in core section a with a peak value of 1.2T calculate the rm voltages at the two coil terminals if coil resistances are neglected

(attached in the previous question which is continued on by this)

So I derived the magnetic equivalent of this circuit which is basically mmf connected to reluctance (R) equivalent. What do I do from here?

at the moment I am here;

F = R * Flux

With that

F= NI, N = 200, R = Req which i have found already and flux = B*A

200 I = Req * B*A

do i substitute in 1.2T for b and solve for I? then multiple by √2 or am i going in the complete wrong direction?

help will be greatly appreciated.
 

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Did they give you the permeability?
 
relative permeability is 10,000,
multiply that by uo
 
spoonjabba said:
the question is;


if there only a current in coil a, and it is AC, calculate the rms current required in coil a to maintain an alternating flux in core section a with a peak value of 1.2T calculate the rm voltages at the two coil terminals if coil resistances are neglected

(attached in the previous question which is continued on by this)

So I derived the magnetic equivalent of this circuit which is basically mmf connected to reluctance (R) equivalent. What do I do from here?

at the moment I am here;

F = R * Flux

With that

F= NI, N = 200, R = Req which i have found already and flux = B*A

200 I = Req * B*A

do i substitute in 1.2T for b and solve for I? then multiple by √2 or am i going in the complete wrong direction?

help will be greatly appreciated.

spoonjabba said:
the question is;


F= NI, N = 200, R = Req which i have found already and flux = B*A

200 I = Req * B*A

do i substitute in 1.2T for b and solve for I? then multiple by √2 or am i going in the complete wrong direction?

help will be greatly appreciated.

Well, you got NI = flux*reluctance right, so what's preventing you from solving for I? And yes, you need to divide by √2 to get rms current. The formula NI = R*flux is for instantaneous values of I and flux.

To get the two winding voltages you go to Mr. Faraday.


(Realize that there are two reluctance paths, right?)
 

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