How to Calculate Steady-State Heat Transfer through a Hollow Sphere?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the steady-state heat transfer through a hollow sphere with specific dimensions and material properties. The original poster presents a problem involving conductive and convective heat transfer, with given parameters such as radius, thermal conductivity, and temperature values.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the heat transfer rate using equations for conductive and convective heat transfer, questioning the correctness of their approach and equations. Some participants provide feedback on the calculations and suggest areas for clarification, particularly regarding the integration of the heat conduction equation.

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Hello everyone.
I've been doing a bit of independent study for this topic without much background and so my thermodynamic knowledge is fairly limited. I came across this problem and I'd like some assistance with it! If anyone can help out, I would be very grateful. A lot of the equations came from my own research, so I'm not sure if my starting point is altogether correct.

Homework Statement


A 0.0985 m radius hollow sphere contains a spherical cavity with 0.0785 m radius. The sphere is made out of a material with a k-value of 0.003 W/m.K. Ambient temperature around the sphere is 25 C, and the initial temperature within the cavity is 5.5 C. Convection heat transfer coefficient of the air is 10.45 W/m2.K for both the internal and external air. Calculate the steady-state heat transfer rate at this given temperature.

Homework Equations


Conductive heat transfer through spherical wall.
$$Q_{sphere} = -kA \frac{dT} {dr}$$

Convective heat transfer on a wall
$$q_{wall} = hA (T_{ambient} - T_{wall})$$

The Attempt at a Solution


Looking at a few calculations online, I determined that the ##Q_{sphere}## can be estimated as
$$Q_{sphere} = 4 \pi k r_1 r_2 \frac {(T_{intwall} - T_{exwall})} {r_2-r_1}$$

Where ##r_1## is the interior radius and ##T_1## is the internal temperature.

Using this http://www.learnthermo.com/examples/ch04/p-4b-2.php link, I think I found a way to connect steady state calculations to combine convective and conductive heat transfer. Using a similar method to the one in the link, I assume that the internal convection heat transfer rate is equal to the heat conduction rate which is also equal to the external convection heat transfer rate.

Internal convection equations:
$$q_{internal} = 4 \pi h r_1^2 (T_1 - T_{intwall})$$
$$q_{external} = 4 \pi h r_2^2 (T_{exwall} - T_2)$$
Where ##T_2## is the external ambient air and ##T_1## is the internal ambient air.
Isolating these for the ##T_{intwall}## and ##T_{exwall}##:
$$T_{intwall} = T_1 - \frac {q} {4 \pi h r_1^2}$$
$$T_{exwall} = T_2 + \frac {q} {4 \pi h r_2^2}$$

Plugging these into the ##Q_{sphere}## equation:
$$q = 4 \pi k r_1 r_2 \frac {(T_1 - \frac {q} {4 \pi h r_1^2} - (T_2 + \frac {q} {4 \pi h r_2^2}))} {r_2-r_1}$$

Plug this into wolframalpha to isolate ##q##:
$$q = -\frac {(4 \pi h k r_1^2 r_2^2 (T_2 - T_1))} {(r_1^2 (k - h r_2) + h r_2^2 r_1 + k r_2^2)}$$

Plugging in values:
h=10.45
r1 = 0.0785
r2 = 0.0985
k = 0.003
T1 = 25
T2 = 5.5
Gives a final answer of
$$q = -0.276 W$$

Is this correct? Is my method at all correct? I'm really not entirely sure on the equations I used or whether I connected them correctly. Any help or pointing in the right direction would be much appreciated.

Thank you!
 
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It all looks good to me. I noted that you used k = .003 in the calculation whereas it stated k = .002 in the problem.
 
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Thanks for looking it over. That was just a typo on my part, my bad. It's fixed now.
 
Zulumike said:
Thanks for looking it over. That was just a typo on my part, my bad. It's fixed now.
This was not done quite correctly. For heat conduction through the shell, $$-k\frac{dT}{dr}=\frac{Q}{4\pi r^2}$$where r is the local radius within the shell. You need to integrate this between the inner and out radii of the shell.
 
TSny said:
It all looks good to me. I noted that you used k = .003 in the calculation whereas it stated k = .002 in the problem.
Chestermiller said:
This was not done quite correctly. For heat conduction through the shell, $$-k\frac{dT}{dr}=\frac{Q}{4\pi r^2}$$where r is the local radius within the shell. You need to integrate this between the inner and out radii of the shell.

I just integrated it again according to your parameters, but I'm getting the same equation. Could you let me know what I'm doing wrong? Below is my calculation.
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Zulumike said:
I just integrated it again according to your parameters, but I'm getting the same equation. Could you let me know what I'm doing wrong? Below is my calculation.
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Oops. Sorry for my confusion. You, of course, did it corretly.
 

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