How to calculate the average velocity?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the average velocity of an object moving along the x-axis, with its position described by the equation x=a+bt^2, where specific values for a and b are provided. The average velocity is to be determined between two time points, t=2.0 s and t=4.0 s.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss how to apply the given position equation to find the average velocity, questioning where to input values for time and position. There are attempts to clarify the correct interpretation of the equation and the calculations needed to find position values at the specified times.

Discussion Status

The discussion has seen participants offering guidance on calculating position values at the specified times and checking the calculations for accuracy. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the results and the correct application of the formula for average velocity.

Contextual Notes

There is some confusion regarding the correct form of the position equation and the necessity of squaring the time in calculations. Participants are also addressing discrepancies between calculated results and those provided in a reference book.

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Homework Statement


The position of an object moving along the x-axis is given by x=a+bt^2, where a=8.5m,b=2.5 ms^-2, and t is measured in seconds. what is the average velocity between t=2.0 s and t= 4.0 s

Homework Equations


as we know, Vavg = xf-xi / tf-ti (f= final position and time and i= initial position and time)

The Attempt at a Solution


Where to put the values because we have the values of t but there are no values of x
 
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Indranil said:
Where to put the values because we have the values of t but there are no values of x
Your problem statement has an equation for x(t) does it not?
 
gneill said:
Your problem statement has an equation for x(t) doe it not?
No, the only equation is 'x=a+bt^2'
 
average velocity between t=2.0 s and t= 4.0 s
So find x when t=2 and find x when t=4, then you'll have all the data you need.
 
Indranil said:
No, the only equation is 'x=a+bt^2'

Yes it does: that IS the expression ##x(t)##---after all, it is telling you the value of ##x## when the time is ##t##!
 
Merlin3189 said:
So find x when t=2 and find x when t=4, then you'll have all the data you need.
I am doing this below
x=a +bt^2 =8.5 +2.5 x 4 =18.5 (when t=4)
x=at + bt^2 =8.5 + 2.5 x 2 =13.5 (when t=2)
see the values below
(a=8.5m, b=2.5 ms^-2, t=2.0 s and t= 4.0 s)
Now what to do?
 
1- what is average velocity?

2- what do your two x values tell you?
 
Merlin3189 said:
1- what is average velocity?

2- what do your two x values tell you?
1. Average velocity = TotalDisplacement / TotalTime
2. The initial position and the final position
If I do the math
Vavg=18.5-13.5 /4-2 = 5/2 (but the answer does not match the answer in my book. in my book, my answer is 15m/s)
Now, what to do?
 
Indranil said:
x=a +bt^2 =8.5 +2.5 x 4 =18.5 (when t=4)
x=at + bt^2 =8.5 + 2.5 x 2 =13.5 (when t=2)
see the values below
(a=8.5m, b=2.5 ms^-2, t=2.0 s and t= 4.0 s)
Sorry, I didn't check this before. You forgot to square the time.

Also there is some confusion between, x=a +bt^2 and x=at + bt^2

In the question statement, you gave the first version.

But your last post is correct in your statement of average velocity and working from your previous results. You just need to check those first calculations.
 
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Merlin3189 said:
Sorry, I didn't check this before. You forgot to square the time.

Also there is some confusion between, x=a +bt^2 and x=at + bt^2

In the question statement, you gave the first version.

But your last post is correct in your statement of average velocity and working from your previous results. You just need to check those first calculations.
It would be x=a+bt^2
 
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Ok. That's what it said in the Q and it is consistent with the units given for a and b.

So now you can get the right values if you stick to this equation and take care with squaring t.
 
  • #12
Merlin3189 said:
Ok. That's what it said in the Q and it is consistent with the units given for a and b.

So now you can get the right values if you stick to this equation and take care with squaring t.
I did but still, the answer does not match the answer in my book.
As you said I have done below
X=18.5 when t=2 and X=40 when t==4 now according to the average velocity
Vavg=xf-xi / tf-ti = 21.5 /2 ms^-1
 
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Indranil said:
I did but still, the answer does not match the answer in my book.
As you said I have done below
X=18.5 when t=2 and X=40 when t==4 now according to the average velocity
Vavg=xf-xi / tf-ti = 21.5 /2 ms^-1
Double check your position calculation for t = 4 s.
 
  • #14
gneill said:
Double check your position calculation for t = 4 s.
Thank you for finding my mistake. I checked it and it's done. Now the answer is 15m/s. Thank you all for your kind efforts.
 

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