How to calculate the band structure?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on calculating the band structure in solid-state physics, specifically how to define the coordinates and number of points along the edges of the first Brillouin zone. It includes inquiries about symmetry points and their significance in the calculation process.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Lucy seeks guidance on defining the number of points and their coordinates for calculating the band structure.
  • Some participants explain that the coordinates correspond to points at the edge of the first Brillouin zone, typically vertices, centers of edges, or centers of faces.
  • It is noted that the choice of the number of points is somewhat arbitrary and should be proportional to the distance between special coordinates that the line segment connects.
  • Lucy expresses confusion about finding high symmetry points and requests examples, indicating a need for clarification on the concept of symmetry points.
  • Participants suggest looking up specific high symmetry points for the Brillouin zone, mentioning that these points can depend on the specific Brillouin zone and its characteristics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of high symmetry points in the Brillouin zone but do not reach a consensus on how to specifically identify or calculate these points, leaving some uncertainty in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the definitions and specific characteristics of Brillouin zones that may affect the identification of symmetry points. The discussion does not resolve how to universally apply these concepts across different crystal structures.

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Hi, all,
I want to calculate the band structure and there is example such like that:

BandLinesScale pi/a
%block BandLines # These are comments

1 0.000 0.000 0.000 \Gamma # Begin at Gamma
50 2.000 0.000 0.000 X # 25 points from Gamma to X
20 2.000 1.000 0.000 W # 10 points from X to W
30 1.000 1.000 1.000 L # 15 points from W to L

40 0.000 0.000 0.000 \Gamma # 20 points from L to Gamma
50 1.500 1.500 0.000 K # 25 points from Gamma to K
20 1.000 1.000 1.000 L # 15 points from W to L
30 2.000 0.500 0.500 W # 10 points from L to U

20 2.000 0.000 0.000 X # 25 points from U to X
Is there anyone can tell me how to define the number of the points and the coordinate of these points? thank you very much

Yours,
Lucy
 
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The coordinates are points at the edge of the first Brillouin zone (except for gamma). If you imagine the 3D Brillouin zone, the points will be either vertices, centers of edges, or centers of faces. You generally have to look those up, as the notation and location of these points depends on your Brillouin zone.

For the number of points, it's a somewhat-arbitrarily assigned number. Usually you would choose the number of points in proportion to the distance between the special coordinates that line segment connects.
 
kanato said:
The coordinates are points at the edge of the first Brillouin zone (except for gamma). If you imagine the 3D Brillouin zone, the points will be either vertices, centers of edges, or centers of faces. You generally have to look those up, as the notation and location of these points depends on your Brillouin zone.

For the number of points, it's a somewhat-arbitrarily assigned number. Usually you would choose the number of points in proportion to the distance between the special coordinates that line segment connects.

Hi,thank you very much. but I am still confused about the coordinate.
Can you give me an example? Someone said we should choose the symmetry points---special K point. How can we find the highly symmetry point.
Thank you very much
Yours,
Lucy
 
Well, I already said that high symmetry points are either vertices, centers of edges, or centers of faces of the Brillouin zone. If you want the names (X, K, M, etc.) you have to look them up for your particular Brillouin zone, and for some BZ's they will depend on things like the c/a ratio.

Look at the Brillouin zone for fcc here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brillouin_zone
X is a center of a square face, K and U are centers of an edges, W is a vertex and L is the center of a hexagonal face.
 
Lucy,

Try to google “table for high symmetry points for brillouin zone” and you should get several web sites that contains table for the coordinates of the high symmetry points for several types of crystals.

Rany
 

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