How to Calculate the Equation of a Tangent Line to a Circle?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the equation of a tangent line to a circle, specifically addressing both points on the circle and points outside the circle. Participants explore mathematical formulations and geometric interpretations, including the use of vector notation and projections.

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  • One participant presents a method for finding the tangent line to a circle given a point on the circle, deriving the equation based on slopes and coordinates.
  • Another participant confirms the correctness of the derived equation for the tangent line.
  • A different approach is suggested using vector notation, where the equation of the tangent is expressed in terms of a normal vector and the distance to the center of the circle.
  • Concerns are raised about the justification for using the dot product to express the tangent line equation, specifically questioning the relationship between the vectors involved.
  • Participants discuss the projection of vectors and how it relates to the distance from the center of the circle to the tangent line.

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While some participants agree on the correctness of the tangent line equation derived for points on the circle, there is uncertainty and debate regarding the justification for the vector approach and the use of the dot product in defining the tangent line for points outside the circle.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the mathematical concepts involved, particularly the projection of vectors and the implications of using unit normal vectors in the context of tangent lines.

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Hey! :o

Let $K$ be a circle with center $M=(x_0 \mid y_0)$ and radius $r$ and let $P_1=(x_1\mid y_1)$ be a point of the circle.

I have done the following tofind the equation of the tangent that passes through $P_1$:
The tangent passes through $P_1$ and is perpendicular to $MP$, then let $m_T$ be the slope of the tangent and $m_{MP}$ be the slope of $MP$, then it holds that $m_T\cdot m_{MP}=-1$.

The equation of the tangent is in the form $y=m_Tx+n$.

The slope of $MP$ is $\frac{y_1-y_0}{x_1-x_0}$. The slope of the tangent is therefore \begin{equation*}m_T=-\frac{1}{m_{MP}}=-\frac{1}{\frac{y_1-y_0}{x_1-x_0}}=-\frac{x_1-x_0}{y_1-y_0}\end{equation*}

We get that \begin{equation*}y=-\frac{x_1-x_0}{y_1-y_0}x+n\end{equation*}

Since the tangent passes through $P_1=(x_1\mid y_1)$, it satisfies the equation of the tangent, so we have the following: \begin{equation*}y_1=-\frac{x_1-x_0}{y_1-y_0}x_1+n \Rightarrow n=y_1+\frac{x_1-x_0}{y_1-y_0}x_1\end{equation*}

The equation of the tangent is therefore \begin{align*}&y=-\frac{x_1-x_0}{y_1-y_0}x+y_1+\frac{x_1-x_0}{y_1-y_0}x_1 \\ & \Rightarrow (y_1-y_0)y=-(x_1-x_0)x+y_1(y_1-y_0)+(x_1-x_0)x_1 \\ & \Rightarrow (y_1-y_0)y=-(x_1-x_0)x+y_1(y_1-y_0)-y_0(y_1-y_0)+y_0(y_1-y_0)+(x_1-x_0)x_1-(x_1-x_0)x_0+(x_1-x_0)x_0 \\ & \Rightarrow (y_1-y_0)y=-(x_1-x_0)x+(y_1-y_0)(y_1-y_0)+y_0(y_1-y_0)+(x_1-x_0)(x_1-x_0)+(x_1-x_0)x_0 \\ & \Rightarrow (y_1-y_0)y=-(x_1-x_0)x+(y_1-y_0)^2+y_0(y_1-y_0)+(x_1-x_0)^2+(x_1-x_0)x_0 \\ & \Rightarrow (y_1-y_0)y=-(x_1-x_0)(x-x_0)+(y_1-y_0)^2+y_0(y_1-y_0)+(x_1-x_0)^2 \\ & \Rightarrow (y_1-y_0)y-y_0(y_1-y_0)+(x_1-x_0)(x-x_0)=(y_1-y_0)^2+(x_1-x_0)^2 \\ & \Rightarrow (y_1-y_0)(y-y_0)+(x_1-x_0)(x-x_0)=(y_1-y_0)^2+(x_1-x_0)^2\end{align*}

The equation of the circle is $(x-x_0)^2+(y-y_0)^2=r^2$. Since $P_1$ is a point of the circle we have that $(x_1-x_0)^2+(y_1-y_0)^2=r^2$.

So we get the following equation of the tangent: \begin{equation*}(y_1-y_0)(y-y_0)+(x_1-x_0)(x-x_0)=r^2\end{equation*}
Is everything correct? (Wondering) Let $K$ be a circle with center $M(x_0\mid y_0)$ and radius $r$. For each point $P$ outside the circle, let $g_P$ be the line through the two intersection points of the tangent to $K$ by $O$.

What do we do in this case where $P$ is outside the circle to determine the equation of the tangent? Could you give me a hint?
 
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Hey mathmari! (Smile)

mathmari said:
So we get the following equation of the tangent: \begin{equation*}(y_1-y_0)(y-y_0)+(x_1-x_0)(x-x_0)=r^2\end{equation*}

Is everything correct? (Wondering)

Yep. All correct. (Nod)

mathmari said:
Let $K$ be a circle with center $M(x_0\mid y_0)$ and radius $r$. For each point $P$ outside the circle, let $g_P$ be the line through the two intersection points of the tangent to $K$ by $O$.

What do we do in this case where $P$ is outside the circle to determine the equation of the tangent? Could you give me a hint?

Let's consider an alternative for the first part first.

We can express the equation of the tangent as:
$$(\mathbf x - \mathbf x_0)\cdot \mathbf n = r \tag 1$$
where $\mathbf x$ is a vector on the tangent line, $\mathbf x_0 = (x_0 \mid y_0)$, and $\mathbf n$ is the normal vector of unit length.
That is, the distance of the tangent line to the center must be $r$.
Or put otherwise, the projection of the vector from the center to a point on the tangent onto the normal vector of unit length must have length $r$.

In our particular case, we can pick:
$$\mathbf n = \frac{\mathbf x_1 - \mathbf x_0}{\|\mathbf x_1 - \mathbf x_0\|} = \frac{\mathbf x_1 - \mathbf x_0}{r}$$
where $\mathbf x_1 = (x_1 \mid y_1)$

When we substitute this $\mathbf n$ in $(1)$, it follows that:
$$(\mathbf x - \mathbf x_0)\cdot \frac{\mathbf x_1 - \mathbf x_0}{r} = r
\quad\Rightarrow\quad (\mathbf x - \mathbf x_0)\cdot (\mathbf x_1 - \mathbf x_0) = (x-x_0)(x_1-x_0) + (y-y_0)(y_1-y_0) = r^2
$$
(Thinking)Okay. Now let's get back to the second part.
It means that we can again write the equation of the tangent as:
$$(\mathbf x - \mathbf x_0)\cdot \mathbf n = r$$
In particular this holds for $\mathbf P$:
$$(\mathbf P - \mathbf x_0)\cdot \mathbf n = r$$
Can we solve $\mathbf n$ from that? (Wondering)
 
I like Serena said:
Let's consider an alternative for the first part first.

We can express the equation of the tangent as:
$$(\mathbf x - \mathbf x_0)\cdot \mathbf n = r \tag 1$$
where $\mathbf x$ is a vector on the tangent line, $\mathbf x_0 = (x_0 \mid y_0)$, and $\mathbf n$ is the normal vector of unit length.
That is, the distance of the tangent line to the center must be $r$.
Or put otherwise, the projection of the vector from the center to a point on the tangent onto the normal vector of unit length must have length $r$.
I haven't really understood why we can write equation of the tangent as $(\mathbf x - \mathbf x_0)\cdot \mathbf n = r$.
The difference $\mathbf x - \mathbf x_0$ is equal to $ \mathbf x_0\mathbf x$, right? Why do we multiply that by the normal vector of unit length to get the radius? (Wondering)
 
mathmari said:
I haven't really understood why we can write equation of the tangent as $(\mathbf x - \mathbf x_0)\cdot \mathbf n = r$.
The difference $\mathbf x - \mathbf x_0$ is equal to $ \mathbf x_0\mathbf x$, right? Why do we multiply that by the normal vector of unit length to get the radius? (Wondering)

Let's first take a look at what a dot product is.
And in particular how it related to projection.
View attachment 6972
See this article about scalar projection.

More specifically, we can find the projection function $\boldsymbol\pi_{\mathbf n}(\mathbf x)$ that projects a vector $\mathbf x$ onto a vector $\mathbf n$.
\begin{tikzpicture}[>=stealth]
\draw[->, green!70!black, thick] (0,0) -- (4,0) node[below] {$\boldsymbol\pi_{\mathbf n}(\mathbf x)= (\mathbf x\cdot \mathbf n)\mathbf n$};
\draw[->, blue, ultra thick] (0,0) -- node[above left] {$\mathbf x$} (4,3);
\draw[->, red, ultra thick] (0,0) -- node[below] {$\mathbf n$} (1,0);
\draw[green!70!black] (4,0) rectangle +(-0.3,0.3);
\draw[green!70!black, thick, dashed] (4,3) -- (4,0) rectangle +(-0.3,0.3);
\end{tikzpicture}

The projection function is given by:
$$\boldsymbol\pi_{\mathbf n}(\mathbf x) = \frac{\mathbf x\cdot\mathbf n}{\mathbf n \cdot \mathbf n}\ \mathbf n \tag 1$$
In the case that $\mathbf n$ is a vector of unit length, we can simplify this to:
$$\boldsymbol\pi_{\mathbf n}(\mathbf x)= (\mathbf x\cdot \mathbf n)\mathbf n \tag 2$$Are you with me so far? (Wondering)
Next is how we can use this in combination with the Hesse normal form of a line.
 

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