How to Calculate the Mass of the Second Skater in a Skating Duo?

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The problem involves two ice skaters pushing off each other, with one skater's mass known and their respective accelerations provided. The goal is to determine the mass of the second skater while considering negligible frictional forces.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the force exerted by the first skater and expresses confusion about how to proceed with finding the second skater's mass. Some participants suggest equating the forces experienced by both skaters, while others note that the net force should equal zero since they start from rest.

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Participants are exploring different interpretations of the forces involved and how they relate to each skater's mass and acceleration. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the forces and the masses, but no consensus has been reached on a specific method to solve for the second skater's mass.

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There is a mention of the initial state of rest for both skaters, which may influence the assumptions about forces and accelerations in the problem. The original poster also notes the challenge of having two unknowns with only one equation.

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Homework Statement



A 62-kg ice skater pushes off his partner and accelerates backwards at 1.8m/s2. If the partner accelerates in the opposite direction at 2.1m/s2, what is the mass of the other skater? Assume that frictional forces are negligible.

Homework Equations


F=ma

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Okay so I found the force the 62kg ice skater exerted. I subtracted the two accelerations and arrived at a -0.3 m/s^2 acceleration from the 62kg ice skater. So I plugged in:

F = (62kg)(-0.3m/s^2)
So the force exerted by the 62kg person is -18.6N. I don't really know where to go from there? I played around with the equation a bit but I can't seem to get anything remotely close to figuring the mass out of the second skater.

Like I'll put the equation as F+18.6N = (m)(0.3m/s^2) But then I'll have two unknowns but not two equations so it just doesn't work out.
 
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In this case, the same quantity of force applies to both guys. In different direction, tough. This works like Pascal's principle, or the sum of kinetic and potential energy of an object.
So, right here, only considering the quantities of force, F1=F2. You can break force into mass and acceleration both as scalar magnitudes. Try it from here.
 
Since both skaters are at rest before they push each other, the net force equals 0.

net F=ma.

You can set the forces equal to each other in terms of mass and acceleration and you should only have one unknown, the mass of the second skater.
 
Thank you Howie!
 

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