How to calculate the normal stress of a Howe reinforcement?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the normal stress in a Howe reinforcement structure, specifically within a pin-connected truss system. Participants are exploring the necessary data and methods required for this calculation, including the significance of cross-sectional area and material selection.

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  • Participants discuss the need for cross-sectional area to calculate normal stress and question the absence of necessary data. There is uncertainty about how to proceed without this information. Some express confusion regarding the problem's requirements and the relationship between material choice and stress calculations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants raising various questions about the problem setup and the implications of the data provided. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between forces, material properties, and stress calculations, but no consensus has been reached on how to proceed effectively.

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Participants note that the problem may contain ambiguities, particularly regarding the definition of "normal stress" and the types of structures involved. There is a mention of needing to select a beam type, but the lack of specific data complicates the calculations.

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I am asked to calculate the forces of the bars specifying if it is in compression or tension, then I am asked to calculate the normal stress in all the bars.
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Σfx=0 and Σfy=0
This is the structure
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I already made the calculation of all the bars T = tension and C = compression, these are the results.

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now I am asked to calculate the normal stress in all the bars but I don't understand where to start, could you tell me how? here is the diagram of the first node but I really don't know where to start.
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Tapias5000 said:
calculate the normal stress
Don't you need to know the cross-sectional area of the bars for that?
 
haruspex said:
Don't you need to know the cross-sectional area of the bars for that?
It seems that way, I looked for a lot of information and most of the exercises had the data of the normal effort, or the area or some other, here I have nothing that.

I don't know if because they are "triangles" I should calculate their area through centroids.

I also have to choose the material of this structure, some type of beam, I don't know if by choosing it I will obtain any data to calculate it, but if I follow the order, they first ask me to calculate the normal stress and then choose a beam for the structure.

I also found information on a method called normal bending stress, where none of this data is available, but I did not find any example that did it with a structure like this or similar.

I'm really very confused ...
 
Tapias5000 said:
It seems that way, I looked for a lot of information and most of the exercises had the data of the normal effort, or the area or some other, here I have nothing that.

I don't know if because they are "triangles" I should calculate their area through centroids.

I also have to choose the material of this structure, some type of beam, I don't know if by choosing it I will obtain any data to calculate it, but if I follow the order, they first ask me to calculate the normal stress and then choose a beam for the structure.

I also found information on a method called normal bending stress, where none of this data is available, but I did not find any example that did it with a structure like this or similar.

I'm really very confused ...
Sounds like an error in the question. Is there a list of beams to choose from? If so, does it specify only the material, or material and section?
 
haruspex said:
Sounds like an error in the question. Is there a list of beams to choose from? If so, does it specify only the material, or material and section?
no, I'm supposed to look for and choose the beam too
 
Tapias5000 said:
no, I'm supposed to look for and choose the beam too
Then all you need is the forces you calculated.
My guess is the part asking for normal stress is left over from an earlier version of the question.
 
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haruspex said:
Then all you need is the forces you calculated.
My guess is the part asking for normal stress is left over from an earlier version of the question.
Ok, so there is no other method to calculate the normal stress without having at least one data? I just follow the order of the points and first is to calculate the normal stress and then choose a beam.

First I would have to look for information about a beam and then calculate the normal stress then?
 
Tapias5000 said:
Ok, so there is no other method to calculate the normal stress without having at least one data? I just follow the order of the points and first is to calculate the normal stress and then choose a beam.

First I would have to look for information about a beam and then calculate the normal stress then?
Each material will have a safe normal stress limit, and from that and the force you can calculate the required cross-section.
 
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I don't understand the meaning of "the normal stress in all the bars".
Could you show us the whole text of the problem?
 
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Tapias5000 said:
Ok, so there is no other method to calculate the normal stress without having at least one data? I just follow the order of the points and first is to calculate the normal stress and then choose a beam.

First I would have to look for information about a beam and then calculate the normal stress then?
These are not beams. This is a pin-connected truss made up of struts that can only support tension or compression. There are no bending stresses. The main principal stress of each strut is oriented along the strut, and the other two principal stresses are zero. To get the stress in each strut, you need to know its cross sectional area.
 
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Lnewqban said:
I don't understand the meaning of "the normal stress in all the bars".
Could you show us the whole text of the problem?
"Normal stress" is the force along the bar divided by its cross sectional area, i.e. stress normal to the cross section.
 
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