How to calculate Torque on the rear wheels of an RC car?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the torque produced by the rear wheels of an RC car, with the goal of converting this torque into power and subsequently into the current required by the motor. The scope includes theoretical calculations and considerations related to the mechanics of the car's operation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines a formula for torque related to power and rotational speed, suggesting T=ω×Pmech and discussing the conversion to electrical current.
  • Another participant proposes measuring the force by attaching weights to the car, although this approach is not pursued due to the lack of available motors for practical testing.
  • A suggestion is made to estimate maximum torque by calculating the torque needed to lift the front wheels off the ground, incorporating the car's mass and the distance from the rear wheels to the center of mass.
  • Concerns are raised about the difficulty of calculating torque at constant velocity due to factors like rolling resistance and drag forces, emphasizing that the gear ratio is necessary for torque calculations at the motor level.
  • A participant mentions that the maximum force the car can handle is dependent on the friction coefficient of the driven wheels, indicating that this force influences various performance aspects of the car.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the methods for calculating torque, with some focusing on theoretical approaches while others suggest practical measurements. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best method to determine torque values.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in their calculations, such as the need for assumptions about rolling resistance, gear ratios, and the lack of empirical data from the motors.

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Individuals interested in RC car mechanics, motor calculations, and theoretical physics related to torque and power in mechanical systems may find this discussion relevant.

Firedawn
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Hi guys,

I'm working on a project where I need to find the torque produced by the rear wheels of an RC car so that I can convert it into power and then into the current required by the motor.
So T=ω×Pmech → Pmech → Pelec → Imotor
Here are the details for the car:
1kg weight
Torque on each rear motor (need to find torque of each)
Radius of wheels is r = 0.03m
Voltage input to motors is 5V
Average velocity of car is 0.33m/s
Assume acceleration time of 2s (not sure if needed)

What is the torque at takeoff and at constant velocity on a flat surface?
 
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Have you thought of trying to measure the force by attaching various weights to the car and hang the weight to dangle off of a table while the car resting on the tabletop tries to pull it up?
 
No because I need theoretical values since I do not currently have the motors.
 
You could estimate the max possible torque by calculating the torque required to lift the front wheels off the ground...

Torque = (mass of car) * g * (distance from rear wheels to centre of mass)
 
The torque at constant velocity is very hard to calculate because it depends on the rolling resistance and similar drag forces.

PS: That's the torque at the wheel. You need the gear ratio to calculate the torque at the motor.
 
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Firedawn said:
So T=ω×Pmech
Torque = power/rotational speed
Current = torque/torque constant
 
The maximum force that can be handled by your car depends on the friction coefficient of your driven wheels. It doesn't matter if you use that force to accelerate, fight drag or rolling resistance or anything else.

This simulator should help define the power you need according to the performance you want.
 

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