How to Calculate Volume Thermal Expansion Coefficient?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around proving the relationship between the volume thermal expansion coefficient of a solid and its linear expansion coefficients in three dimensions. The original poster seeks to understand the mathematical derivation of this relationship, particularly in the context of isotropic solids.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to relate the change in volume to the changes in linear dimensions but encounters confusion regarding the mathematical expressions involved. Some participants suggest simplifying the expression for volume change and question the mathematical steps taken to arrive at certain conclusions.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering suggestions for simplification and clarification of the mathematical approach. There is a focus on understanding the implications of isotropic expansion, but no consensus has been reached on the specific steps to take next.

Contextual Notes

The problem involves assumptions about isotropic solids and the neglect of higher-order terms in the expansion, which are noted as small quantities. The original poster's confusion about the relationship between volume and linear dimensions is a central theme in the discussion.

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Homework Statement


Prove that the volume thermal expansion coefficient of a solid is equal to the sum of its linear expansion coefficients in the three directions: B = Ax + Ay + Az


Homework Equations



B = (dV/V)/dT
A = (dL/L)/dT

The Attempt at a Solution



My thought was using dV/V = ((dLx*dLy*dLz)/(Lx*Ly*Lz)) but when you use this it is clear that dL^3/L^3 does not equal 3* dL/L

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks for the help
 
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dV= ( Lx +dLx)( Ly +dLy)( Lz +dLz) - Lx*Ly*Lz
Simplify this and proceed.
 
Can you explain mathematically how you got there?

Also, the problem statement says at the end (So for an isotropic solid, which expands the same in all directions, B = 3A) if that makes the problem simpler.
 
Lx, Ly and Lz are the lengths of the block. When the temperature is raised through 1 degree C, the new lengths will be Lx + Ax, Ly + Ay and Lz+ Az.
New volume will be (Lx + Ax)( Ly + Ay)( Lz+ Az). Original volume is Lx*Ly*Lz.
Sp dV = (Lx + Ax)( Ly + Ay)( Lz+ Az) - Lx*Ly*Lz
Find dV/V. Neglect the terms like Ax*Ay and so on because they are very small quantities.
 
rl.bhat said:
dV= ( Lx +dLx)( Ly +dLy)( Lz +dLz) - Lx*Ly*Lz
Simplify this and proceed.

phrygian said:
Can you explain mathematically how you got there?

dV = (volume after expansion) - (initial volume)​

After expansion, the box dimensions have increased by dLx, dLy, and dLz, from their initial lengths Lx, Ly, and Lz.

EDIT:
rl responded faster than I. :smile:
 

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