Thermal expansion of bimetallic strip

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The discussion revolves around the thermal expansion of a bimetallic strip, focusing on the coefficients of thermal expansion for two different metals and how they affect the curvature of the strip when subjected to a temperature change. Participants are exploring the relationships between the radii of curvature and the dimensions of the strip as it expands.

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  • Participants attempt to derive relationships between the radii of curvature (r1 and r2) and the dimensions of the bimetallic strip based on thermal expansion coefficients. Questions are raised regarding the correctness of their mathematical expressions and the implications of neglecting certain factors, such as thickness.

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A bimetallic strip is made of metal which has coefficient of thermal expansion is equal to α1 and the other's is equal to α2 at the temperature of T0. The temperature is increased to T0 + ΔT (ΔT > 0). The strip curves as shown in the figure. If both strip have the same width of d. Find r1 measured from the center of the curve to the center of the strip as shown in the figure

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1) radian is (Length of the curve)/(Radius)
2) Using the following estimation
(1 + x)-1 ≈ 1-x and (1 + ax)(1+bx) ≈ 1+(a+b)x for x << 1

The Attempt at a Solution


α1 strip expansion is L0(1 + α1ΔT) for the length
and d(1 + α1ΔT) for the width
α2 strip expansion is L0(1 + α2ΔT) for the length
and d(1 + α2ΔT) for the width

Multiplying radian with radius, the result should be the curve length

r1θ = L0(1 + α1ΔT)
r2θ = L0(1 + α2ΔT)

r2 = r1 + d(2 + α1ΔT + α2ΔT)/2

Is that correct?
 

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What is the ratio of r2 to r1? What is the difference between r2 and r1?
 
Chestermiller said:
What is the ratio of r2 to r1? What is the difference between r2 and r1?
The difference is d(2 + α1ΔT + α1ΔT)/2 because of the width expansion.

Is that correct?
 
PeppaPig said:
The difference is d(2 + α1ΔT + α1ΔT)/2 because of the width expansion.

Is that correct?
Neglecting the change in thickness, it is just d.
 
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Chestermiller said:
Neglecting the change in thickness, it is just d.
Then the difference should be d. And the ratio should be (r1 + d)/r1 or (1 + α2ΔT)/(1+α1ΔT)

Is that correct?
 
Yes. To terms of 1st order in ##\alpha \Delta T##, this gives $$\frac{d}{r_1}=(\alpha_2-\alpha_1)\Delta T$$
 
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Chestermiller said:
Yes. To terms of 1st order in ##\alpha \Delta T##, this gives $$\frac{d}{r_1}=(\alpha_2-\alpha_1)\Delta T$$
Thank you.
Which mean r1 is equal to d/((α2 - α1)ΔT)

What about the estimation? Or do I have to estimate them before the calculation?
 
PeppaPig said:
Thank you.
Which mean r1 is equal to d/((α2 - α1)ΔT)

What about the estimation? Or do I have to estimate them before the calculation?
I don't know what you mean by "the estimation." Are you talking about retaining only terms of first order in ##\alpha \Delta T##?
 
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PeppaPig said:
2) Using the following estimation
(1 + x)-1 ≈ 1-x and (1 + ax)(1+bx) ≈ 1+(a+b)x for x << 1
 
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Ok. That’s what we did with the equation in post #5.
 
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Chestermiller said:
Ok. That’s what we did with the equation in post #5.
Then it should be 1/(1 - α2ΔT)(1 + α1ΔT) and then 1/(1+(α1 - α2)ΔT)

Is that correct?
 
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PeppaPig said:
Then it should be 1/(1 - α2ΔT)(1 + α1ΔT) and then 1/(1+(α1 - α2)ΔT)

Is that correct?
Yes. So, from that, what is d/r1?
 
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Chestermiller said:
Yes. So, from that, what is d/r1?
##\frac{d}{r_1} = \frac{-(\alpha_1 - \alpha_2) \Delta T}{1 + (\alpha_1 - \alpha_2) \Delta T}##

Then ##r_1 = (\frac{1}{(\alpha_2 - \alpha_1) \Delta T} - 1) d##

Is that correct?
 
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PeppaPig said:
##\frac{d}{r_1} = \frac{-(\alpha_1 - \alpha_2) \Delta T}{1 + (\alpha_1 - \alpha_2) \Delta T}##

Then ##r_1 = (\frac{1}{(\alpha_2 - \alpha_1) \Delta T} - 1) d##

Is that correct?
No. Check your math.
 
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Chestermiller said:
No. Check your math.

From these equations
##r_1 \theta = L_0 (1 + \alpha_1 \Delta T)##
##r_2 \theta = L_0 (1 + \alpha_2 \Delta T)##

Then substitute ##r_2## with ##r_1 + d##

##\frac{r_1 + d}{r_1} = \frac{1}{1+(\alpha_1 - \alpha_2) \Delta T}##

Where am I going wrong?
 
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PeppaPig said:
From these equations
##r_1 \theta = L_0 (1 + \alpha_1 \Delta T)##
##r_2 \theta = L_0 (1 + \alpha_2 \Delta T)##

Then substitute ##r_2## with ##r_1 + d##

##\frac{r_1 + d}{r_1} = \frac{1}{1+(\alpha_1 - \alpha_2) \Delta T}##

Where am I going wrong?
$$\frac{r_1 + d}{r_1} = 1+(\alpha_2 - \alpha_1) \Delta T$$
$$1+\frac{d}{r_1}= 1+(\alpha_2 - \alpha_1) \Delta T$$
 
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Chestermiller said:
$$\frac{r_1 + d}{r_1} = 1+(\alpha_2 - \alpha_1) \Delta T$$
$$1+\frac{d}{r_1}= 1+(\alpha_2 - \alpha_1) \Delta T$$
Oh! I should estimate the equation into

##1 + (\alpha_2 - \alpha_1) \Delta T##

##r_1 = \frac{d}{(\alpha_2 - \alpha_1) \Delta T}##

Is that correct?
 
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PeppaPig said:
Oh! I should estimate the equation into

##1 + (\alpha_2 - \alpha_1) \Delta T##

##r_1 = \frac{d}{(\alpha_2 - \alpha_1) \Delta T}##

Is that correct?
Yes. It all involves knowing how to make the correct mathematical approximations.
 
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Chestermiller said:
Yes. It all involves knowing how to make the correct mathematical approximations.
Thank you very much and Merry Christmas.
 
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PeppaPig said:
Thank you very much and Merry Christmas.
Back at ya.
 
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