How to Calculate Work on a Puck Using Conservation of Angular Momentum?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the work done on a puck using conservation of angular momentum. The initial parameters include a puck mass of 0.300 kg, an initial radius of 0.4 m, and an initial velocity of 0.6 m/s. The user attempts to find the final velocity after the puck's radius decreases to 0.15 m, applying the conservation of angular momentum and kinetic energy formulas. Multiple calculations are presented, but the user encounters inconsistencies in their results, prompting questions about the correctness of the final radius. Ultimately, clarification on the final radius leads to a potential resolution of the calculation errors.
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Determining the work done on the puck using conservation of angular momentum?? Help!

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This is what I did...

1) Given

mpuck = 0.300 kg
rinitial = 0.4 m
vinitial = 0.6 m/s

mpuck = 0.300 kg
rfinal = 0.15 m
vfinal = ____ m/s

ƩW = KEfinal - KEinitial

2) KEinitial = (1/2)mv2
KEinitial = (1/2)(0.300)(0.62)
KEinitial = 0.054 J

3) KEinitial = (1/2)mv2
KEinitial = (1/2)(0.300)v2
KEinitial = 0.15v2

4) Find v - Angular momentum is conserved due to a lack of friction. The puck goes from 40 cm to 15 cm, so it has a different angular momentum.

Linitial = Lfinal
initial = Iωfinal
[STRIKE](0.300)[/STRIKE](0.4)(0.6)2 = [STRIKE](0.300)[/STRIKE](0.15)v2
(0.4)(0.6)2 = (0.15)v2
0.144/0.15 = v2
0.96 = v2
0.979 = v

5) Plug v back into Net work equation

ƩW = KEfinal - KEinitial
ƩW = (0.979) - (0.054)
ƩW = 0.925 J

Which is wrong...
:(
Help!
 
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riseofphoenix said:
Linitial = Lfinal
initial = Iωfinal
[STRIKE](0.300)[/STRIKE](0.4)(0.6)2 = [STRIKE](0.300)[/STRIKE](0.15)v2

You want those squares?
 


TSny said:
You want those squares?

Oh...

But even without them I still get the wrong answer.


(0.4)(0.6) = (0.15)vfinal

1.6 = vfinal

4) KEfinal = 0.15(1.62)
KEfinal = 0.15(2.56)
KEfinal = 0.384

So,

W = (0.384) - (0.054) = 0.33

Still wrong...
 


brb in an hour!
 


riseofphoenix said:
(0.4)(0.6) = (0.15)vfinal

Is 0.15 m correct for the final radius? Another reading of the question might help.
 


TSny said:
Is 0.15 m correct for the final radius? Another reading of the question might help.
Final radius would be... .4 m - .15 = .25!

Ohhhhh thank you!
 
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