How to Calculate Work on a Puck Using Conservation of Angular Momentum?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work done on a puck using the principles of conservation of angular momentum. The problem involves initial and final velocities, as well as changes in radius, with a focus on the kinetic energy and angular momentum relationships.

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  • Participants discuss the conservation of angular momentum and its application to find the final velocity of the puck. There are attempts to calculate initial and final kinetic energies, and questions arise regarding the correctness of the final radius used in the calculations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing calculations and questioning assumptions about the final radius. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the problem, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or final values.

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There is uncertainty about the final radius of the puck's motion, with conflicting interpretations of the problem statement. Participants are also addressing potential errors in their calculations, particularly concerning the inclusion of squares in the angular momentum equations.

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Determining the work done on the puck using conservation of angular momentum?? Help!

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This is what I did...

1) Given

mpuck = 0.300 kg
rinitial = 0.4 m
vinitial = 0.6 m/s

mpuck = 0.300 kg
rfinal = 0.15 m
vfinal = ____ m/s

ƩW = KEfinal - KEinitial

2) KEinitial = (1/2)mv2
KEinitial = (1/2)(0.300)(0.62)
KEinitial = 0.054 J

3) KEinitial = (1/2)mv2
KEinitial = (1/2)(0.300)v2
KEinitial = 0.15v2

4) Find v - Angular momentum is conserved due to a lack of friction. The puck goes from 40 cm to 15 cm, so it has a different angular momentum.

Linitial = Lfinal
initial = Iωfinal
[STRIKE](0.300)[/STRIKE](0.4)(0.6)2 = [STRIKE](0.300)[/STRIKE](0.15)v2
(0.4)(0.6)2 = (0.15)v2
0.144/0.15 = v2
0.96 = v2
0.979 = v

5) Plug v back into Net work equation

ƩW = KEfinal - KEinitial
ƩW = (0.979) - (0.054)
ƩW = 0.925 J

Which is wrong...
:(
Help!
 
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riseofphoenix said:
Linitial = Lfinal
initial = Iωfinal
[STRIKE](0.300)[/STRIKE](0.4)(0.6)2 = [STRIKE](0.300)[/STRIKE](0.15)v2

You want those squares?
 


TSny said:
You want those squares?

Oh...

But even without them I still get the wrong answer.


(0.4)(0.6) = (0.15)vfinal

1.6 = vfinal

4) KEfinal = 0.15(1.62)
KEfinal = 0.15(2.56)
KEfinal = 0.384

So,

W = (0.384) - (0.054) = 0.33

Still wrong...
 


brb in an hour!
 


riseofphoenix said:
(0.4)(0.6) = (0.15)vfinal

Is 0.15 m correct for the final radius? Another reading of the question might help.
 


TSny said:
Is 0.15 m correct for the final radius? Another reading of the question might help.
Final radius would be... .4 m - .15 = .25!

Ohhhhh thank you!
 
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