How to Choose the Right Materials for a Cost-Effective Compost Tumbler Design?

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The discussion revolves around selecting appropriate materials for a cost-effective design of a compost tumbler, focusing on the gear system, support structure, and overall structural integrity. Participants explore material options, strength calculations, and design considerations for an engineering project.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant is considering using injection-molded plastic for the gears to minimize costs but is uncertain about calculating gear teeth strength.
  • There is a discussion about whether to use galvanized steel or aluminum for the supports, plates, and axle, weighing the benefits of strength versus corrosion resistance.
  • Another participant questions the adequacy of the motor's size for the required duty and suggests sharing the data sheet for further evaluation.
  • A participant mentions that the supports and support plates are designed to be removable for easier storage and assembly.
  • One suggestion is made to potentially replace the gears with a belt and pulley system or a chain and sprocket, noting that a bicycle chain might be excessive.

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Participants express differing opinions on material choices and design approaches, indicating that multiple competing views remain regarding the optimal design for the compost tumbler.

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Participants have not reached consensus on the best materials or design modifications, and there are unresolved calculations regarding the strength of the components under load.

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Yesterday, I made a thread about creating gears in Inventor. I successfully created them, but now I have a few questions regarding material strength.

Background:

I am making an autonomously rotating compost tumbler for an engineering class. The design consists of a drum surrounding an axle. The drum is turned by a motor and gear system.
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I need to determine the materials for the gear system, the support poles, the axle, and the triangular support plates. The drum is made out of HDPE. This product would theoretically be mass-produced, so I am looking to keep the material cost as low as possible. I have a spreadsheet with some material information here.

What material can the gears be made out of to keep costs as low as possible? I was thinking about some sort of plastic that can be injection molded, but I don't know how I would go about calculating gear teeth strength.

Should the supports, plates, and axle be made out of galvanized steel or aluminum? I would prefer to keep them all the same material. Galvanized steel is heavier and more expensive but also stronger, while aluminum offers more corrosion resistance. Either way, I need to be able to show calculations justifying my choice. I'm not sure how to calculate the strength since they are angled.

The maximum weight of the device when full shouldn't be more than 100 lb, but with OSHA safety factors, I would prefer to plan for at least 200 lb.

Other info:

The gears have a 1:2 gear ratio. The input torque from the motor (the blue cylinder in the third picture) is 7.8 lb*ft, and the maximum balancing torque of the drum is 8.35 lb*ft. The drum diameter is 1'.

The angle between the supports is around 45 degrees. I don't have the exact number with me right now.

Edit:
I did some calculations to get there to be 46 lb of compression force on each leg, and 39 lb of tension force on each support plate. The compost tumbler doesn't have the weight evenly distributed, but I just had each pair of supports/support plate with 100 lb of weight. I'm not sure if I did it right, but the numbers sound okay to me.
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Edit 2:

I am currently leaning towards:

6061-T6 Aluminum
Structural Pipe 3/4" SCH 40 (1.05 OD X .113W) 0.39
 
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That motor looks very small . Are you sure that it's really adequate for the duty required ?

If in any doubt post the data sheet and I'll have a look .

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Your support structure looks ok in principle .

Perhaps consider making the legs removable for storage and transport purposes ?
 
The link to the thread where we calculated the maximum balancing torque of 8.35 lb*ft is here. The motor torque is 7.8 lb*ft at 2 rpm. When geared down at a 1:2 ratio, the output torque is 15.6 lb*ft at 1 rpm.

Also, the supports and support plates are removable so the consumer can easily store and assemble it.
 
It might be lower cost to replace the gears with belt & pulley or with chain & sprocket (bicycle chain, but that would be overkill).
 

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