How to Compute the Ensemble Average of a Product of Integrals?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around computing the ensemble average of a product of integrals involving a function and its complex conjugate. The context is within statistical physics or quantum mechanics, where ensemble averages are common.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between the ensemble average of a product and the provided relation involving the delta function. Questions arise regarding the notation and whether the variables in the integrals should be consistent, specifically whether a prime notation is necessary.

Discussion Status

Some participants have pointed out potential corrections to the original problem setup, suggesting that the notation may need to be adjusted for clarity. There is an acknowledgment of these corrections, but the discussion remains open regarding how these changes affect the computation.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of confusion regarding the variables used in the integrals and the implications of the delta function in the context of the problem. The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to apply the given relation effectively.

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Homework Statement



I'm trying to compute something of the form \langle \int_a^b{f(x) dx} \int_a^b{f(x)^{\dagger}dx} \rangle where the dagger means complex conjugate and the brackets are ensemble average (f(x) is a statistical quantity). I'm supposed to use the relation that \langle f(x) f(x')^{\dagger} \rangle = c*\delta(f-f') where c is some constant.


Homework Equations



\langle f(x) f(x')^{\dagger} \rangle = c*\delta(f-f')

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm a bit perplexed. I have the function and its complex conjugate, but inside different integrals, which are being multiplied. And the ensemble average of a product isn't the same as the product of ensemble averages, either... is it? I'd be surprised.

I thought maybe I could multiply the entire quantity by an extra f dagger, then somehow use the relation, but it didn't really get me anywhere.

So I have no idea how to use the given relation. Can anyone help??
 
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quasar_4 said:

Homework Statement



I'm trying to compute something of the form \langle \int_a^b{f(x) dx} \int_a^b{f(x)^{\dagger}dx} \rangle where the dagger means complex conjugate and the brackets are ensemble average (f(x) is a statistical quantity).
Are you sure that the x appearing in the second integral should not all have a prime on them?

I'm supposed to use the relation that \langle f(x) f(x')^{\dagger} \rangle = c*\delta(f-f') where c is some constant.
Are you sure that it is not \delta(x-x') ??


Check these two things and let us know. If I am correct about the two corrections, the problem becomes very easy.
 
Oops, you're right. I've been working with functions of frequency and forgot. So yes, should be f(x) and f(x'), and the delta function should then be delta(x-x').
 
quasar_4 said:
Oops, you're right. I've been working with functions of frequency and forgot. So yes, should be f(x) and f(x'), and the delta function should then be delta(x-x').

Great. Then are you all set? Replacing the product of the functions by a delta function makes the two integrations trivial.
 

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