How to deal with cramped Physics courses?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges and considerations of taking a heavy course load in upper-level physics courses. Participants share their experiences and advice regarding managing a demanding academic schedule, focusing on the implications for understanding the material and maintaining a good GPA.

Discussion Character

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about taking ~11 upper-level physics courses in two semesters and seeks advice on managing the workload while maintaining a decent GPA.
  • Another participant questions the necessity of such a heavy course load and suggests considering the option of extending the education by an extra year to ensure better understanding.
  • Some participants argue that while it is possible to do well, the focus on understanding the material might be compromised with such a load.
  • Several participants emphasize the importance of personal assessment of workload capacity and suggest that experiences vary widely among students.
  • One participant shares their own experience of taking a similar course load and achieving a high GPA, but notes that this may not be applicable to everyone due to differences in program rigor.
  • There are discussions about the potential need to drop courses if the workload becomes overwhelming, with some suggesting that a more realistic course load might be beneficial.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the feasibility of the proposed course load, with some believing it is manageable while others caution against the potential risks of overloading. No consensus is reached on the optimal approach to handling the situation.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that the difficulty of the course load can vary significantly based on individual circumstances, university standards, and personal study habits. There is recognition of the importance of understanding the material versus simply completing the courses.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students considering heavy course loads in physics or related fields, as well as those seeking advice on managing academic pressures and maintaining a balance between workload and understanding.

Ehden
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For the next two semesters, I will be taking about ~11 upper level physics courses. To be specific, within two semesters, I have to take optics, math based physics split into two semesters (covers differential equations, vector, integral, laplace, fourier, and complex analysis), thermodynamics, introductory course to modern physics, electromagnetism 1, mechanics, electric circuits, solid state electronics, and two labs. All the courses are 200 level classes, except for electromagnetism and a lab (which are 300 level courses). At this point, I'm going to go bald trying to build a fundamental understanding for all those courses and maintain a decent GPA. Any advice to save some hair would be most appreciated.
 
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Ehden said:
For the next two semesters, I will be taking about ~11 upper level physics courses.
Why?
 
jtbell said:
Why?
It's part of a program where I can earn an applied physics degree and an eng degree. I require ~40 credits of upper level physics, before I can take the eng courses. I was hoping that I could fulfill the physics requirement in a year. However, my advisor told me if it's too much, I can drop a few courses and take those later, but, that will just extend my education by a year (must finish the physics req within a year or two, not in between).

Judging by the required courses, how "hard" will it be to do "well"?
 
Is it possible to do "well", sure, but you might not learn much. I would take the extra year.
 
If the point is to understand the material then the extra year is advisable. What's the rush?
 
Ehden said:
However, my advisor told me if it's too much...

When assigning weight to the advice you receive, remember that your advisor is someone who should be intimately familiar with your program and should have experience seeing how others have performed with the various course loads. The other person to listen to is yourself. You know a lot more about the kind of workload you can handle than we do.

To me that course load doesn't sound impossible, but you wouldn't be asking this question if you thought it was going to be easy. Some people need to have a different course in the mix to really do well. Others thrive on complete immersion and find they do better in a more focussed setting
 
Choppy said:
When assigning weight to the advice you receive, remember that your advisor is someone who should be intimately familiar with your program and should have experience seeing how others have performed with the various course loads. The other person to listen to is yourself. You know a lot more about the kind of workload you can handle than we do.

To me that course load doesn't sound impossible, but you wouldn't be asking this question if you thought it was going to be easy. Some people need to have a different course in the mix to really do well. Others thrive on complete immersion and find they do better in a more focussed setting

I perform better if I'm completely submerged on one topic, which is why I finished all my elective courses within the first year. From there I can just take my upper level math/physics courses without any other course interruptions. However, I'm still a bit anxious, as these physics courses seem relatively hard, and I'm stacking them together. My advisor did say that there were a few students who were able to do what I'm about to do, and receive "good" GPA scores. As mentioned before, I can drop some of the courses during the semester if I find it too difficult.

I would like to attempt at least an A- on all those courses. But, that doesn't mean I want to skip out on understanding those courses. However, I would like recommendations on which of those courses should I place a heavier emphasis on, especially the courses that would most benefit a prospective ME student.
 
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Ehden said:
I perform better if I'm completely submerged on one topic

Do you want to be submerged, or do you want to keep your head above water? If you wait until you are in trouble to make changes, you may find that you need to drop more than you would have had you started with a more realistic course load.
 
I'm not so sure that I understand the dilemma. 11 courses is 5-6 courses, or 15-18 credit hours per semester. That's on the upper end of normal, but definitely within the realm of manageable in my opinion. I'd argue that quite a few physics majors had a semester or two that were filled to the brim with physics courses.
 
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Dishsoap said:
I'm not so sure that I understand the dilemma. 11 courses is 5-6 courses, or 15-18 credit hours per semester. That's on the upper end of normal, but definitely within the realm of manageable in my opinion. I'd argue that quite a few physics majors had a semester or two that were filled to the brim with physics courses.

Judging by the comments and general opinion, it seems like taking 5-6 courses upper level physics courses is on the borderline of insane. But, from your judgement I guess it seems manageable? I mean, from your perspective, are the courses that I'm taking doable?
 
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Ehden said:
Judging by the comments and general opinion, it seems like taking 5-6 courses upper level physics courses is on the borderline of insane. But, from your judgement I guess it seems manageable? I mean, from your perspective, are the courses that I'm taking doable?

Obviously that differs from person to person and from university to university. However, I had a very similar courseload for two semesters (I believe that I took E&M I, Mechanics I, Intro to Modern Physics (including the lab), Diff Eq, and Optics in one semester). It made for some late nights and I wasn't able to do very much research that semester. I did get a 4.0 that semester.

However, the fact that many others here (who have much more experience than I do) seem to think it's a bad idea means that it's very much dependent on the school/person. My undergraduate program was not too rigorous, which was likely why I was able to do these courses - they may have been watered down.
 

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