How to Derive Formulas for Mass and Angle in Ramp Experiments?

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This discussion focuses on deriving formulas to relate the mass of an object and the angle of a ramp to the distance it slides. The experiments utilize the principles of constant-acceleration kinematics and Newton's second law of motion. Key parameters include a mass of 100 kg, ramp angles of 30° and 45°, an initial ramp position of 8.9 m, a final position of -7.0 m, gravitational acceleration (g) of 9.8 m/s², and a coefficient of kinetic friction (μ) of 0.3. Participants are encouraged to apply sine and cosine functions to derive the necessary relationships.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of constant-acceleration kinematics
  • Familiarity with Newton's second law of motion
  • Knowledge of trigonometric functions (sine and cosine)
  • Basic principles of friction in physics
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  • Derive the formula for distance (d) based on mass (m) using Newton's second law
  • Explore the relationship between ramp angle (θ) and distance (d) using trigonometric identities
  • Investigate the effects of varying the coefficient of kinetic friction (μ) on sliding distance
  • Conduct experiments to validate derived formulas with different mass and angle combinations
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I am experimentally determining the relationship between the mass of an object and how far it slides from the bottom of a ramp? That would be my X(final) right.

I have to derive a formula between the mass of the object and how far it slides. (need help getting started-tricky) So far from what we have learned there are only three main formulas for constant-acceleration kinematics.

Secondly, I am eperimentally determining the relationship between the angle of the ramp and how far an object slides from the bottom of the ramp.

I also have to derive a formula between the angle of the ramp and how far it slides.

So far, I have beem using sin for y-component. And cos for x-component with given θ. (tricky)



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I also have to derive a formula between the angle of the ramp and how far it slides.

I have to derive a formula between the mass of the object and how far it slides. (need help getting started-tricky) So far from what we have learned there are only three main formulas for constant-acceleration kinematics.



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Familair with the three basic equations.
 
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Experiment #1: Relationship between angle and how far object slides off the end of the ramp.

m = 100 kg
θ = 30°
initial starting point on ramp: 8.9 m
final starting point on ramp: -7.0m
g = 9.8 m/s2
μ= 0.3 (kinetic friction)

Now keep all the information the same except for the angle change it to 45°.

Here's the tricky part-----Come up with appropriate kinematics formula and Newton's 2nd law of motion to derive a general formula relating the angle (θ or sinθ) and the distance it slides.

Experiment #2: Relationship between the mass of an object and how far object slides off the end of the ramp.

This time keep everything the same except for the mass of the object. One object weights 10 kg., and one weighs 100 kg.

m = 100 kg
θ = 30°
initial starting point on ramp: 8.9 m
final starting point on ramp: -7.0m
g = 9.8 m/s2
μ= 0.3 (kinetic friction)

Here's the tricky part-----Come up with appropriate kinematics formula and Newton's 2nd law of motion to derive a general formula relating the object's mass (m) and the distance it slides (d).


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