Calculate speed of block at the end of the ramp

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The problem involves calculating the speed of a block sliding down a ramp with friction. The ramp's angle can be adjusted, and the coefficients of static and kinetic friction are provided. The block starts from rest and the height of the ramp is a point of contention in the calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss which friction coefficient to use in the calculations, questioning whether to apply static or kinetic friction. There are attempts to clarify the height of the ramp and its calculation based on the angle. Some participants express uncertainty about the correctness of their equations and results.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on the importance of considering the work done by friction and gravity. There is an exploration of the relationship between the forces acting on the block and the calculations involved. Multiple interpretations of the ramp height and friction application are being examined.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the calculation of the ramp height and the appropriate friction coefficient to use. Some participants have pointed out discrepancies in previous calculations, indicating a need for clarification on these points.

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Homework Statement


A mass of m = 1.40 kg is placed on a 2.00 m ramp. The angle of the ramp can be adjusted by changing the height of the top of the ramp.

In reality there is a small amount of friction between the block and the ramp: μs = 0.261, μk = 0.119.

If the ramp (with friction acting) is now lifted so that θ = 48.0o and the block now slides from rest the full 2.00 m down the ramp what is its speed at the bottom?

Homework Equations



V^2 = -2 x g x (h-ugcosangle x d)

height of ramp = 0.7020408163

The Attempt at a Solution



V^2 = -2 x 9.8 x (-0.7020408163 + 0.119 x cos48 x 2) = wrong answer

Which friction do i use? Static or kinetic? Or is my approach wrong entirely?

Not sure where i went wrong[/B]
 
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When you post, please provide your argumentation along with your equations and do not forget the units - units are important. Also, do not overdo the significant digits.

That being said: What is the work done by a force? In which direction does friction act? Consequently, what is the work done by the friction?
 
Find out first if the force due to gravity can overcome the static friction force. if so it will accelerate down the block.
 
Anon2459 said:
height of ramp = 0.7020408163
It must be more than that.
 
hi everyone,

do i use us or uk to calculate the velocity?

Thanks
 
Anon2459 said:
hi everyone,

do i use us or uk to calculate the velocity?

Thanks
You are ignoring my post #4. Please show how you are calculating the ramp height.
 
haruspex said:
You are ignoring my post #4. Please show how you are calculating the ramp height.
hi, sorry
i recalculated it using the new angle 48
so sin(48) x 2 = h

i incorrectly used the height from the previous answer hence why it was 0.7,
 
haruspex said:
You are ignoring my post #4. Please show how you are calculating the ramp height.
My solution is:

V^2 = -2 x g x (-1.486289651 + 0.261 x cos(48) x 2)
And then square root

Is this correct ?
 
Anon2459 said:
My solution is:

V^2 = -2 x g x (-1.486289651 + 0.261 x cos(48) x 2)
And then square root

Is this correct ?
Looks ok.
 
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haruspex said:
Looks ok.
it was wrong unfortunately
 
  • #11
Anon2459 said:
it was wrong unfortunately
What number did you get? I got roughly 5m/s.
 

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